Donny's Klingon Stuff

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Donny, Mar 7, 2020.

  1. TOMFAN

    TOMFAN Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    How about the Enterprise-A Rec Deck? A large open space, brightly lit, not so oppressive as the Klingon bridge, and since it's the 'A' you could really make it your own, witout having to copy exactly what we saw in TMP?
     
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  2. Donny

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    I think I'll have to finish my TUC Enterprise-A bridge before tackling that one. It's hanging there begging to be finished. I actually am considering switching back to that for the time being. Anyway, sometime AFTER I finish that bridge, I'll eventually tackle to TVH Ent-A bridge.

    Oooof. Too big of a project right now. I may take some time to finish up the cargo bay at least, as that didn't have much more to go. TFF shuttlebay? I'd rather do a redress of the TMP shuttlebay (whenever I model that) to serve as a TUC shuttlebay, completely bypassing and ignoring the TFF shuttlebay ;)

    Thank you for the kind words.

    Here's to wishing your son a pleasant entrance to the world and my hopes that you're able to be present at that event. Your family is in my thoughts :)

    Thank you for the kind words as well! My fear of disappointing followers of my work (you guys and gals) stems from starting individual environment/ship projects that I'm not able to finish before breaking off from them. I'm finding this is happening more these days as I struggle with motivation with a given project lasting more than a couple of weeks. I hated getting everyone excited about the Refit Cargo Bay/Shuttle Bay and now the K't'inga Bridge and then being like "Sorry! My mood won't allow me to finish this right now!" It's unnecessary that I give myself grief over this, as you're right...this is for fun and I'm not getting paid and in the grand scheme of things it isn't all that important, but the feeling is still there and no one is making me feel that way but...myself. So thank you all for understanding. It helps ME be more understanding of myself.

    I really....reallly want to do a proper TMP rec deck first, as a matter of fact, I'm leaning towards beginning work on that soonish. Stay tuned :)

    EDIT: I want to just say, I'm glad we can talk like fellow human beings with each other on this thread/board. Right now, in the midst of the quarantine and me still dealing with some unexpectedly prolonged heartache as a result of that new relationship failing a couple months ago (this has been bothering me far more than I've let on to those around me), I'm glad there's this place to turn to for support. You people are great and I appreciate all of your enthusiasm and support over the years. Cheers to all of you and thanks for being awesome!
     
  3. aridas sofia

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    Somewhere - possibly TMoST - it says that the “in universe” reason for the comic book color scheme of the TOS bridge is precisely because of social isolation. In other words, to the eyes of someone who can go out and about, it looks like way too much. But canned up for long periods of time? It has a psychologically rehabilitative effect.

    Who knows? I’m not a psychologist. But it sounds good. I know a hotel lobby would drive me crazy after a few hours. But all those bright colors might drive me to murder.
     
  4. Mytran

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    I don't know what it's like for for more recent discoverers of your work, but for me the regular switching between projects is something I've actually grown to enjoy.
    For one thing there's just so much visual greatness in the Trek universe that keeping to a single project for an extended period of time would deprive us of that variety.
    For another, it's almost like we consumers are being swept along as your mind wends its way through the creative process.
    In any case, the quality of your work speaks for itself - no danger of disappointment here! :techman:
     
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  5. Psion

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    What an awesome thing to look forward to! I warn you that there will be times over the next two decades that you will be vexed by the consequences of procreation, but the love you share will fill a void you never even knew you had. Treasure it. Take many, many pictures and lots of video. I had a video camera with me in the delivery room and still go back to relive that most amazing moment. The thin newborn wail, the delicate little fingers and nails, THOSE FREAKISHLY ENORMOUS FEET! Don't forget to give your partner a kiss and thank her for the--

    MOTHER OF QUISP, THOSE FEET!

    Alright, let me get this off my chest. I asked several people that hour, "Is this normal?" He was my baby boy and I already loved him no matter what, but surely there was some alien DNA involved. They assured me he was quite normal, but I kept staring. "Not how I would have made the mesh." Then I remembered a story my mother told me about my own birth. Good, old Dr. Weis looked at my feet and exclaimed, "He's gonna be a tall one!" And compared to most of my family, I am. At that moment I realized the little bugger was going to rival me. Today, fifteen years and some months later, he stands nearly eye-to-eye with me and I know he's going to have at least another two inches.

    So! When you first meet your son, take anything that looks unusual in stride. Give your partner the kiss she so deserves and thank her for that weird, wet, bundle of love and tears. Take lots of video, document as much as you can, and remember to put the camera down every-so-often to just experience moments. They're astonishingly fleeting.
     
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  6. Tallguy

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    Nice thing is @Donny hasty built THAT much so when he comes back to this he won't scrap THAT much when he tears it all down. ;)
     
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  7. JonnyQuest037

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    As a creative person myself, I totally get it. And it can be REALLY tough to buckle down and do the work in a timely fashion when you don't have outside deadlines. Left to my own devices, my second-guessing, perfectionism, and impostor syndrome can really do a number on me.
    Feel free to send me a FB message if you ever want to vent a bit. :)
    Yeah, I think you're right. And the more colorful look would certainly be cheerier to look at day after day than the grey & black look of "The Cage" bridge. I imagine that it'd be very much like serving on a submarine for months on end. Enclosed space & not much to look at.

    Honestly, all the pictures of space, planets, and spaceships that you see hanging up all around the various Enterprises don't make much sense to me. Personally, I'd want to see pictures of I couldn't see every day, like lakes, meadows, and mountaintops in the public areas. If I ever wanted to see space, I could just look out a window.
    The beige sets of TNG and TFF would certainly make me homicidal after a while.
     
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  8. David cgc

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    That's the exact approach they took when decorating the human characters' quarters on Babylon 5, for that exact reason (like, I'm sure they specifically mentioned TNG being decorated with all that space-art).
     
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  9. Norsehound

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    I'm right there with you. On top of my impending firstborn, I'm coming down from an unsuccessful medication as I try to find a solution to my ADHD-like symptoms that keep me jumping from project to project. I feel bad for frustrating my fans (particularly in the Homeworld Community) for not actually completing many projects and it frustrates me that my whims take me so many places. When I try to fight this, I end up procrastinating even more and just... not having the enthusiasm to continue.

    So I'm there with you, it's good that you're able to finish things and you totally are allowed to jump to where you will takes you. You (and I, I hope) do really good work- it's forgivable that sometimes our passions carry us elsewhere.

    Something that told me I was cut out for kids was the fact that I have so much fun gaining uncle privileges with my nephews before I married my wife. I have no idea how my son will turn out, but if he's creative like me I'll enjoy helping him nurture those passions and embrace what he wants to do without shame. I don't feel like I got that kind of encouragement when I was younger, and I want to see what he's capable of. Besides, it'll be fun having someone else to get into playing pretend with... if he turns out as much of a Trek fan as I was when I was younger, I'll totally be Mr. Spock to his Kirk. That is, unless his sibling wants that role :O

    Thank you for the well wishes everyone. Donny, I'll be waiting with enthusiasm for this bridge to be finished because like so much else you've done, it gives some form to all the sets we'll never get to touch and see. While I'm not wild about the bridge from 5/6, I have no doubt they'll come out fantastically.
     
  10. Maurice

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    FYI I asked Andy Probert if he had any info that could help Donny and while he didn't, it was for a good reason: the one day he visited the set he was so blown away by Robert Wise he didn't really study the set. He did think the side rooms were smaller than he had intended, but said it didn't matter.

    His comment on what Donny has built so far was, "Amazing stuff, huh ?" :)
     
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  11. Workbee

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    I am curious if the set was left standing after filming TMP like some of the other enterprise sets, or if it had to be taken down over the course of filming to make room for another set (similar to how the Rex deck was torn down to make room for the Vejer set iirc).

    In other words, when Nick Meyer came to direct TWOK, did he have a standing intact Klingon bridge to start from with or did they have to pull parts out of storage and rebuild for the torpedo and reactor rooms?
     
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  12. Maurice

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    The set was in pieces on casters so they could easily move parts around from place to place and stage to stage. That's how they were able to move the back area over to the Enterprise engineering set to become the Spock Microwave.
     
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  13. sintesi

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    It did, but I never liked it. It looked more like a theatrical lighting design aesthetic to me, as opposed to a cinematic choice. I suppose it could have been an attempt to give a nod to Jerry Finnerman, but it missed if that's what it was.
     
  14. sintesi

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    Surely if he did, it would have shown up in one of his memos.
     
  15. Maurice

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    This assumes we know of his memos. That requires access to the Robert Wise papers or the Roddenberry papers related to the movies.
     
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    Look how the Klingon Emblem is sideways behind this Klingon Captain in Elaan of Troyius. I think it was the first time the Emblem was ever shown. I kind of like it that way.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Maurice

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    That's how it the "Klingon Fleet Emblem" was intended to be displayed in Jefferies design sketches. It was in Star Trek Animated and the movies that it got rotated.
    klingon-emblem-jefferies.jpg
     
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    You've given me another piece of Star Trek minutiae to be annoyed and pedantic about. Thanks so much.
     
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