Domnion War should have ended by end of season 5
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The writers originally did plan to end the war somewhere around the end of Season 5. Then they got side-tracked for over a year by all the Klingon baggage Worf brought with him.
Personally, I think dragging the War on through the series finale was a big mistake. There was so much potential for post-war drama that was squandered.
Personally, I think dragging the War on through the series finale was a big mistake. There was so much potential for post-war drama that was squandered.
Berman wanted the war over by the end of the Occupation arc. Thank God no one listened. 
I absolutely disagree with the idea of this thread.
Speaking in hypotheticals about how things should have been but never can be:
Dominion War should have started sooner. Ie: Start of Season 4, instead of having the worthless, pointless Klingon War.
Dominion War should have ended way later, such as at the end of Season 10 of DS9 (DS9 need not end prematurely at Season 7 in hypothetical scenarios :thumbsup
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In a perfect world, this is how it would have went.
Dominion War is by far the most compelling thing to have ever happened in DS9, or in any Trek show.
DS9 needed more Dominion War, not less.
I'm grateful there was no Voyager crossover. Those two shows are not on the same level at all, and I would hate to see one of them dragged down by the much lesser quality of the other.
I do like the idea of the Feds invading the Gamma Quadrant, but first they needed to go all-out with the Alpha Quadrant war and give it every minute of screen-time it deserves. Feds invading the Gamma should only have occurred in Season 11 of DS9 or later. :thumbsup:
Speaking in hypotheticals about how things should have been but never can be:
Dominion War should have started sooner. Ie: Start of Season 4, instead of having the worthless, pointless Klingon War.
Dominion War should have ended way later, such as at the end of Season 10 of DS9 (DS9 need not end prematurely at Season 7 in hypothetical scenarios :thumbsup
. In a perfect world, this is how it would have went.
Dominion War is by far the most compelling thing to have ever happened in DS9, or in any Trek show.
DS9 needed more Dominion War, not less.
I'm grateful there was no Voyager crossover. Those two shows are not on the same level at all, and I would hate to see one of them dragged down by the much lesser quality of the other.
I do like the idea of the Feds invading the Gamma Quadrant, but first they needed to go all-out with the Alpha Quadrant war and give it every minute of screen-time it deserves. Feds invading the Gamma should only have occurred in Season 11 of DS9 or later. :thumbsup:
The Klingon War is what led to the Cardassian-Klingon Alliance and Dukat in power, without that the Dominion wouldn't have a foothold in the AQ to begin with and as such, how was the war to start? With the Feds invading the Gamma Quadrant?
If they did that, they'd have gotten their rears annihilated.
VOY's lesser quality was due to constant network interference, which DS9 was exempt from due to it being syndicated instead. The writers were quite capable of writing good dramatic stuff but they always had to ignore it or undo it by the end (Year of Hell) due to UPN.
If they did that, they'd have gotten their rears annihilated.
VOY's lesser quality was due to constant network interference, which DS9 was exempt from due to it being syndicated instead. The writers were quite capable of writing good dramatic stuff but they always had to ignore it or undo it by the end (Year of Hell) due to UPN.
The problem I find with the idea of the Federation taking the war into the Gamma Quadrant is that... well... it would never have happened. And for one simple reason;
The Federation War, from the Dominion's perspective, has to have been something like the Vietnam War was for the United States.
A distant war, far from its own borders, in which it committed a great number of resources to see through a goal.
But, that was all. A distant war. And one in which they were unable to send supplies after war broke out.
That's essentially the *ONLY* reason The Federation Alliance won. Had Vietnam been a war at the US's door step, things would have gone very, very differently.
Just as they would were the Federation to attempt to bring the war to Dominion space.
If anything, the war would go worse for the Federation in Gamma than it went for the Dominion in Alpha. The reason being that the Dominion repeatedly demonstrated an ability to produce ships and men far in excess of what the Federation was capable of producing. And were the war to take place in the heart of the Dominion, the Federation would have to contend with the *FULL* production capabilities of the Dominion.
In the end, the Dominion were defeated in Alpha. But something that I think is often overlooked is the fact that they never lost their stranglehold on Gamma, and more than likely built more than enough ships during the course of time the war ran to replace what they had sent through the wormhole. And, of course, then there's the fact that you know they never committed their entire war fleet in the first place.
The Federation War, from the Dominion's perspective, has to have been something like the Vietnam War was for the United States.
A distant war, far from its own borders, in which it committed a great number of resources to see through a goal.
But, that was all. A distant war. And one in which they were unable to send supplies after war broke out.
That's essentially the *ONLY* reason The Federation Alliance won. Had Vietnam been a war at the US's door step, things would have gone very, very differently.
Just as they would were the Federation to attempt to bring the war to Dominion space.
If anything, the war would go worse for the Federation in Gamma than it went for the Dominion in Alpha. The reason being that the Dominion repeatedly demonstrated an ability to produce ships and men far in excess of what the Federation was capable of producing. And were the war to take place in the heart of the Dominion, the Federation would have to contend with the *FULL* production capabilities of the Dominion.
In the end, the Dominion were defeated in Alpha. But something that I think is often overlooked is the fact that they never lost their stranglehold on Gamma, and more than likely built more than enough ships during the course of time the war ran to replace what they had sent through the wormhole. And, of course, then there's the fact that you know they never committed their entire war fleet in the first place.
I'm happy they did it the way they did. I think the war got enough time to play itself out and never felt dragged out IMHO. I also think the end of the war coinciding with the season finale was a great way to end the series - I was longing for more.
Having said that, I'd have loved a season 8 dealing with the post war universe. But I think it would have been to soon to deal with that in season 7 not to mention 5. Hell, as others said, season 5 is basically when the war started!
And I'm really, REALLY glad there was no crossover with VOY. As far as I'm concerned, DS9 and VOY took place in different realities or something along those lines. I cannot bring them together in my mind.
Having said that, I'd have loved a season 8 dealing with the post war universe. But I think it would have been to soon to deal with that in season 7 not to mention 5. Hell, as others said, season 5 is basically when the war started!
And I'm really, REALLY glad there was no crossover with VOY. As far as I'm concerned, DS9 and VOY took place in different realities or something along those lines. I cannot bring them together in my mind.
Here, here. I would have thought a two year post war period, but one would have been great. Grovel Dominion!
I disagree with the original poster as well. I think that the Dominion War arc was executed just fine and yes the Klingon War at the start of Season Four was partially the catalyst for the Dominion as it forced the Cardassians to seek an alliance with the Founders, dividing the Alpha Quadrant although it also helped unite them later on.
The Klingons and Romulans might try invading the Gamma Quadrant, but not the Federation.
For the Feds, the war was never about eliminating the Dominion threat once and for all, nor grabbing territory in the Gamma Quadrant. The Federation's sole purpose for waging war was defense of its own territory.
For the Feds, the war was never about eliminating the Dominion threat once and for all, nor grabbing territory in the Gamma Quadrant. The Federation's sole purpose for waging war was defense of its own territory.
And there we have it.
Can't believe it took people this long to get here.
The Gamma Quadrant was NOT where Voyager was lost. Voyager was lost in the Delta Quadrant, and 'ya can't get thar from here!'
Not sure how you'd to a crossover show with a crew that was lost on the other side of the galaxy....
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