Dominion vs. Borg

[jmampilly]

I have considered the two most dangerous entities we have seen in Star Trek, the Dominion and Borg, and am curious as to which you guys think would win a war.

I myself am conflicted. Both entities could easily wipe the floor with Alpha/ Beta Quadrant powers. But I fail to see which side could successfully subdue the other. The Borg could potentially assimilate the Jem'Hadar, unless the Dominion soldiers have some kind of genetic enhancement that makes them impervious to nanobots. Even if the Borg could assimilate the Jem'Hadar, the Dominion could very possibly clone and spawn Jem'Hadar at a pace on par with the Borg rate of assimilation. But the Borg ability to adapt could potentially make Dominion weapons useless very quickly, making for an easy victory.

What do you guys think?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Beserkers vs Zombies? Though it would come down to details, I think the Jem'hadar have advantages that would make them more formidable against the Borg than other species were: lack of survival instinct, inbred genetic loyalty, effectiveness in close combat, willingness to dispatch a fallen comrade. We've never seen any group try to take out individual Borg before--they usually seek technological solutions to halt the Borg advance. However, I could see Jem'hadar boarding a cube with the intention of capturing it.

 

[borgboy]

It would be a pretty ferocious war. If the Borg could assimilate a Founder, that would be the turning point to the Borg defeating the Dominion.

 

[USS Triumphant]

It would be a pretty ferocious war. If the Borg could assimilate a Founder, that would be the turning point to the Borg defeating the Dominion.

Or vice versa, because if the nature of a Founder's mind is as fluid and adaptable as the rest of them, their sense of self might survive assimilation and dominate that of the Collective. I could see it going either way depending on the writer.

 

[Pondwater]

The Founders probably already have something to combat against the Borg. It might be similar to what Species 8472 has done. Founders can engineer plagues that could last several generations and completely wipe out a civilization. Dominion win.

 

[Star Wolf]

If the Founders can not be assimilated because of their form then what do the Borg care about them? Now if the Founders just attacked from their standing anti solid prejudice the Borg might wipe out that local area under self defense

 

[Shawnster]

If the Founders can not be assimilated because of their form then what do the Borg care about them? Now if the Founders just attacked from their standing anti solid prejudice the Borg might wipe out that local area under self defense

Borg intent seems to have evolved and changed through the course of Star Trek. At first, the Borg were only interested in a species technical distinctiveness, not the individual beings. A human could wander all around the Borg and be ignored because the Borg had already assimilated what they needed to know about humans.

Later, the Borg changed into mindless zombies intent on assimilating and consuming everything in their path. Entire planets were assimilated and species became extinct (if I remember correctly).

The Borg were unable to assimilate species 8472. Instead of moving on, however, the Borg intensified their efforts to invade fluidic space.

So, the Borg as we know them now would be strongly motivated to assimilate the Dominion. They may not be able to assimilate a Founder (I don't think it's possible), but that would only make them intensify their efforts. The Borg would always be on the lookout to assimilate Dominion ships, member species and Jem'Hadar soldiers.

The battle would be EPIC.

 

[AgentCoop]

I think the Borg win this one, especially if they start assimilating Jem'Hadar. I am also sure it would be one of the coolest things ever put on screen.

 

[publiusr]

Now the Polaron weapons did seem to go right through shields--so it might take a little more time to adapt to those--the drone is killed before he can share info.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Borg will eventually adapt to whatever the Dominion throw at them. Even if the Dominion inflict heavy damage early on, long term they don't have a chance.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I think the Borg win this one, especially if they start assimilating Jem'Hadar. I am also sure it would be one of the coolest things ever put on screen.

I want to see a Borgified Founder!

 

[Nightdiamond]

Once the Borg learns of the Founder's ability to change into almost any form, along with all the technology the Dominion has to offer, they're going to stop at nothing to assimilate the entire Dominion.

The cloning technology, the genetic engineering, Jem Hadar as clones, long range transporter--forget about it.

They'll eventually find out where the Founder's home world is. They're going to study how to assimilate them, detect them when they're in another form.

The Founders are very smart, and they have very smart Vorta scientists working for them. And they're into to things like developing and deploying destructive viruses.

They wouldn't hesitate for a minute to use them.

As far as Sci fi goes, It would be a very interesting war to watch.

 

[bbjeg]

Another vote for the Borg (is it too late to add a poll?). When Starfleet adapts to the Borg, the Borg adapts to their enhancements. When Starfleet adapts to the Dominion, the Dominion remains not as dominant. I imagine the Dominion will do heavy damage to the Borg initially, but the Borg will adapt and be unstoppable. Once they get a Jem'Hadar processing plant, I'd imagine they'll incorporate it into every Borg cube. Not only will they be able to assimilate, they'll be able to create Borg as well.

Edit: Also, there was a thread for this already:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=214996

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Are we talking about Dominion vs REAL Borg (as seen in TNG), or Dominion vs Creepy-Emo-Goth-Kid-Type Borg as seen in Voyager and the movies?

 

[F. King Daniel]

^Please. Nothing after TOS is REAL Trek, anyway

 

[AgentCoop]

^ I'm sorry, was there a show before TNG? I never heard of it.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

^Please. Nothing after TOS is REAL Trek, anyway

As JJ Abrams would agree.

 

[bbjeg]

^ I'm sorry, was there a show before TNG? I never heard of it.

Fry from Futurama said it best:

Fry: You know. 1966? 79 episodes, about 30 good ones.

 

[jmampilly]

Do you guys think the Borg could learn to assimilate founders?

 

[bbjeg]

^Not currently but maybe eventually. They just need to learn how to stop them from turning into fire.