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Dollhouse cancelled after 13!

That it got more episodes than Firefly makes me sad. Still sorry to see it go.

Hopefully, if Joss ever dares to have yet another go, he can come up with something a bit better.
 
I think "Not really surprised" is an understatement. Nobody actually expected the thing to get a third season.

In fact, I'm not even sure an exclamation point is needed in the title.
 
It is pretty bad when an unaired episode that barely has the series regulars in it was FAR more interesting than the rest of the series.
 
Apparently it hasn't actually been canceled. Rather, Fox has decided not to pick up a back 9. A decision on cancellation will be made in the new year.
 
I swear to God and General Zod, if Whedon EVER gets talked into working with Fox television again I will drive to his house and bitch slap the man.

It's not just a matter of liking some of his aborted shows. The guy just keeps wasting the time of his fans and regular viewers and the talent of his favorite actors on projects that Fox will abort. I think it's clear at this point that Whedon just isn't interested in making shows that Fox likes, and arguably, the average Fox viewer has any interest in.

At least, if there's any possible silver lining, it's that they've maybe got time for some form of closure in episode 13 of season 2, which will leave the story "clean cut" and less awkward to pick up later in a television movie, mini-series, or comic book.
 
I was surprised when it was renewed for a second season so I'm not very surprised either.

I hope Joss isn't too discouraged and that he comes up with a better idea in the future.
 
Apparently it hasn't actually been canceled. Rather, Fox has decided not to pick up a back 9. A decision on cancellation will be made in the new year.

I suppose if they're going to bother airing the remaining episodes anyway, they may as well see how they do before making any final decisions.

Still, not holding my breath.
 
Not really a surprise, but also not anything I'll shed a tear over. I'm a big fan of Whedon's previous work, but Dollhouse just left me cold. I'll look forward to whatever his next project is now that he's gotten this stain on his resume out of the way.
 
I swear to God and General Zod, if Whedon EVER gets talked into working with Fox television again I will drive to his house and bitch slap the man.

*New show on Fox by Joss Whedon*

Joss- Third times the charm!

*someone at comic con throws a shoe at Whedon*
 
Fox treated thsi show like trash! Fox didn't give this show a chance! i ahte Fox they fucking cancel all the best shows ever! Fuck you Fox! I fucking hate you Fox!

Did I get all of them?
 
For fans of the show, I'm sorry to hear it. I didn't watch, I'm not a Whedon fan, but he'll do another show before long and with luck it'll stick like Buffy and Angel did. :techman:
 
I was surprised when it was given a second season, but I knew that it wouldn't be able to find an audience on a Friday night. Fox also did a terrible job marketing the show correctly, and their early creative meddling sure didn't help either (the first several episodes were utterly boring).

I'd really like for Joss to capture lightning in a bottle again and make something that's wonderful and fun, but also commercially successful.
 
I did like the show, so I'm disappointed, but I still think Dollhouse was the least of Whedon's TV efforts. If I could take Dollhouse's second season and give it to Firefly instead, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 
I swear to God and General Zod, if Whedon EVER gets talked into working with Fox television again I will drive to his house and bitch slap the man.

It's not just a matter of liking some of his aborted shows. The guy just keeps wasting the time of his fans and regular viewers and the talent of his favorite actors on projects that Fox will abort. I think it's clear at this point that Whedon just isn't interested in making shows that Fox likes, and arguably, the average Fox viewer has any interest in.

At least, if there's any possible silver lining, it's that they've maybe got time for some form of closure in episode 13 of season 2, which will leave the story "clean cut" and less awkward to pick up later in a television movie, mini-series, or comic book.

I dunno. Some ____ is better than no ____, right? Do you think it would have survived longer on another network?
 
The news doesn't surprise me, though I do wonder why they made this decision before waiting for the December ratings. At least the show got one more season than Firefly, and at least they get to give it a real ending.


You weren't missing much. Dollhouse certainly wasn't Whedon's best work.

Whereas I think it's his finest, most mature work ever. And I don't mean "mature" in the sense of adult-only or non-sophomoric, but in the sense that it's more developed creatively, conceptually, and thematically than its predecessors in Whedon's body of work.

For one thing, the exploration of morality in Whedon's work has been getting progressively more ambiguous and immersed in gray areas. More and more, his stories have been becoming less about good guys and bad guys and more about people making morally ambiguous choices for complex reasons, and Dollhouse is the fullest, richest, most challenging development of that theme to date in Whedon's work.

For another thing, it's the most genuinely science-fictional series Whedon has ever done. Science fiction in the truest sense is fiction that postulates a scientific, technological, or sociological advancement and examines its consequences to human nature, society, ethics, morality, identity, and so forth. And Dollhouse does that in spades. Once it got past its early "mission of the week" phase, it became a fascinating examination of the social, psychological, and philosophical consequences of the technology to overwrite or modify minds. With this series, Whedon has truly matured from using genre concepts as trappings or allegories for personal stories to actually engaging in fully developed science-fictional worldbuilding. And that's something few producers of genre television or film ever actually achieve.


However, those factors also mean that it's a difficult show for commercial television, maybe a bit too niche to succeed. I don't think it would be fair to blame FOX for this. If anything, FOX gave it more of a chance than it would probably have gotten on any other network, and I think they deserve credit for trusting in this challenging and unconventional show enough to give it two full (if short) seasons.

And it's not like the show's potential went unfulfilled. Heck, this show was doing the kind of big stuff in episode 6 that most shows wait until episode 13 to unleash. It had a bit of a slow start, but it packed a lot into its first season and it's packing even more into the second.
 
I have all the episodes on my DVR and had planned on one day getting around to watching them but given the poor opinion many have of it and now that FOX has canned it I'll probably just delete them and free up some space on my DVR.
 
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