He is crazy. His hot neighbour invites him in to share some lasagne that she has already eaten and he goes back in to his apartment to work.
Certifiable.
Dollhouse 1x02 "Target" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>
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He is crazy. His hot neighbour invites him in to share some lasagne that she has already eaten and he goes back in to his apartment to work.
Certifiable.
And every playboy millionaire and dangerous psycho can find the place, but a trained FBI investigator can't?
Dude, I'm not eating anything that some chick has already eaten. I don't care how hot she is.
Besides, the playboys don't find it, they presumably get recommended and then background checked before getting a meeting with a representative. It's not like they rock up at the front door and ring the bell.
The FBI seem to have trouble locating huge lockups full of illegal drugs, so the fact that they can't track down a well financed secret underground lair is not too much of a stretch.
It'll probably transpire that there are folks higher up at the FBI who are not interested in having the Dollhouse investigated.
What's William B. Davis up to these days, anyway?
What's William B. Davis up to these days, anyway?
You watch the first few episodes of "Buffy" again and tell me that it's not.
And this week she tries out for the cheerleading squad!
Shit, halfway through the first year they're running through "Twilight Zone" cliches like talking dummies.
First, I loved this episode. I agree that the human / hunter thing is cliched but I also think it's powerful. I remember liking it on Fantasy Island! (Yes, I'm ancient -- 41 years old last week.)
Second, here's my theory behind a spoiler cut, even though it's just speculation.
I love the relationship between Boyd and Echo. Clearly, this whole thing is NOT OK with him, and I think we'll soon get whatever his "internal justification" is. I love that she's already transcending her programming, as when she tells Boyd, "No, it's NOT going to be OK."
I think this show is going to be great. I agree that the pilot was a little weak, but that's partly because Fox pressured him to show the wrong pilot.
I have to admit I'm a little dismayed at the number of people who watch one ep and give up, or who think that the show sucks because not every concern has been addressed in two eps. I guess these folks aren't the Firefly lovers.
'Cause, I'm one of those, and you bet I learned my lesson.
Not so much on this board, but elsewhere I've also heard complaints about the prostitution / rape question. Um, I think that's the point. I think Joss wants us to be disturbed by this. I also think that this is honest, because you bet if we had secret mind-wipe doll technology, people would be using it for sexual purposes. Unlike, say, Next Gen where people on long, long voyages just used the holodeck for cute little holonovels. That's not what I'd be using the holodeck for.
Second, here's my theory behind a spoiler cut, even though it's just speculation.
I think Caroline / Echo invented the dang technology herself. The yearbook video shows her saying "I want to do everything!" We've heard her say multiple times "I just wanted to make a difference" (which this technology could do when used for the right reasons). I think she invented the tech, something went wrong, and she was correctly blamed or incorrectly framed (more likely); the older woman (actress = Olivia, can't remember character name) is offering her this "contract" (i.e. blackmailing her) for five years to keep her out of jail.
I think Alpha knows Caroline / Echo "did this to him" and he's trying to revisit the horror back on her by trying to trigger a composite event, first when he carves up the dollhouse, and second when he rigs up this whole hunting thing. Amy Acker may also be related (sisters?) which is why Alpha didn't kill her but carved her face instead: sending a message. The Olivia character could even be mother to one or both.
But I think the key is: Echo invented the tech.
I think Alpha knows Caroline / Echo "did this to him" and he's trying to revisit the horror back on her by trying to trigger a composite event, first when he carves up the dollhouse, and second when he rigs up this whole hunting thing. Amy Acker may also be related (sisters?) which is why Alpha didn't kill her but carved her face instead: sending a message. The Olivia character could even be mother to one or both.
But I think the key is: Echo invented the tech.
I love the relationship between Boyd and Echo. Clearly, this whole thing is NOT OK with him, and I think we'll soon get whatever his "internal justification" is. I love that she's already transcending her programming, as when she tells Boyd, "No, it's NOT going to be OK."
I think this show is going to be great. I agree that the pilot was a little weak, but that's partly because Fox pressured him to show the wrong pilot.
I have to admit I'm a little dismayed at the number of people who watch one ep and give up, or who think that the show sucks because not every concern has been addressed in two eps. I guess these folks aren't the Firefly lovers.
'Cause, I'm one of those, and you bet I learned my lesson.Not so much on this board, but elsewhere I've also heard complaints about the prostitution / rape question. Um, I think that's the point. I think Joss wants us to be disturbed by this. I also think that this is honest, because you bet if we had secret mind-wipe doll technology, people would be using it for sexual purposes. Unlike, say, Next Gen where people on long, long voyages just used the holodeck for cute little holonovels. That's not what I'd be using the holodeck for.
Above average, surprisingly, although nothing earth-shakingly unique.
I just hate the "mood music" though, seems like it was written by a dozen monkeys and could be performed with kazoos. Like annoying white noise, no actual compliment to the show.
I just hate the "mood music" though, seems like it was written by a dozen monkeys and could be performed with kazoos. Like annoying white noise, no actual compliment to the show.
Perhaps you missed it, but the psycho from this episode found out about the dollhouse and was given the necessary credentials to get an "engagement", as they call it, from Alpha.
... Still doesn't explain the pilot episode customer, though.
The biggest plot hole for me in keeping the Dollhouse a secret is that the customers are told that they get reprogrammed agents - Instead of acting like a luxury temp agency supposedly staffed with experts. That would make much more sense to me.
The biggest plot hole for me in keeping the Dollhouse a secret is that the customers are told that they get reprogrammed agents - Instead of acting like a luxury temp agency supposedly staffed with experts. That would make much more sense to me.
Episode 2 is way better than the pilot. I think the image that FOX wanted to portray with the Pilot didn't work out and what was left was dull. It may have sentenced this show to death (hopefully not). At least this episode gave the backround on Dollhouse that the Pilot sorely lacked. After watching the first 20 unbearable minutes of Ep 3, I hope that the future episodes go somewhere very soon. I hope FOX didn't fully screw up this show like they did with the Pilot and Episode 3.
Above Average. By Dollhouse standards anyway. Way better than "Pilot" but not as good as last week.
I hated this premise when I first heard it but I'm slowly seeing where Whedon is going with this. The concept of Echo being someone entirely new each week is the root of all boring but I can see that she's eventually going to become her own person, given the chance. I'm waiting for the episode when the Dollhouse thinks they've given her a persona but she's just herself.
Tahmoh Penikett's Agent Ballard continues to be the most interesting character by virtue of him being himself every week. Also, I think Penikett's come into his own as an actor. This character isn't written as well as Helo (yet) but he's playing it better. I look forward to seeing what they do with him.
Also, a shout out to Harry Lennix for also portraying a good character but also doing a fairly good James Cawley-doing-Kirk-doing-Shatner line readings on a few occasions this week and last
I hated this premise when I first heard it but I'm slowly seeing where Whedon is going with this. The concept of Echo being someone entirely new each week is the root of all boring but I can see that she's eventually going to become her own person, given the chance. I'm waiting for the episode when the Dollhouse thinks they've given her a persona but she's just herself.
Tahmoh Penikett's Agent Ballard continues to be the most interesting character by virtue of him being himself every week. Also, I think Penikett's come into his own as an actor. This character isn't written as well as Helo (yet) but he's playing it better. I look forward to seeing what they do with him.
Also, a shout out to Harry Lennix for also portraying a good character but also doing a fairly good James Cawley-doing-Kirk-doing-Shatner line readings on a few occasions this week and last