Which is why I find labels of limited usefulness. Why not discuss issues rather than say, "Oh, you're right/left/whatever.?" I know politics are sensitive topics but little conversation is generated by saying "these political people can't possibly like Trek."
Because how you might describe an ideology might be different than how I do. To tie back to Trek, if I say "oh I'm a Trek fan!" you might assume I love TOS. But that's not what I mean. I might mean just DS9 or the Kelvin movies.
No one said that you had to be.
Pet peeve.
I always get a kick out of people who try to claim ownership of a television show. If Star Trek was a show that only spoke to left wingers, it would have died a long time ago. Though I do find it ironic that the group that claims to believe in IDIC tends to be the ones making this claim and also tend to be the least interested in different viewpoints .
You're not an oddball. You're actually the majority of people who watch television for entertainment. Its how shows like Star Trek, Dallas, Yellowstone and The West Wing can all be successful even though their messages are completely different. They are shows that were able to reach a broad audience, not a narrow one. The oddballs are the ones who take a fictional television show so serious that they think it speaks only to them and how DARE anyone else get any enjoyment out of it.
Well, I'm just saying that Trek fans who hold on to racist and bigoted views missed the point of a large number of the episodes. It's well known that Roddenberry had some progressive views, and that shone through in Star Trek. I'm not saying that they can't enjoy it. I just don't understand how they can criticise new Trek for being too "woke", but will happily watch "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" or "The Outcast".
Also, "different viewpoints" in the case of people who use the term "woke" negatively is about whether or not certain people deserve rights. If you are racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc, I'm not obligated to say IDIC and just accept your prejudice. "Different viewpoints" and IDIC are for when you're talking about things like which Trek series is the best, or what the best toast topping is, not when you're talking about things like if LGBT+ people deserve to be accepted.
So we're allowed to disagree about toast toppings? How generous of you!
Well, toast does offer the best variety of toppings for a light snack. Personally, I enjoy butter and cinnamon sugar.
Oh, please spare me the nonsensical "tolerant people are so intolerant against intolerant people, how dare they?" talking point. It's not 2016 anymore, no one cares about this whiny self pity BS anymore
Spare me the whole "Everyone who argues against me is an intolerant person" B.S. It's older than 2016 and it doesn't work with me. But thank you for showing your hand, and thus, proving my point.
