Spoilers Does it feel to anyone else that SNW is cynically mining Trek's past glories?
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That's a negatory from me.
Why? Personally I like it. It makes it all seem connected.
Not to me. A little goes a long way, but the constant fellating of old hits is a slippery slope. The more you do it, the more you draw attention to the fact that it's NOT connected by anything but a brand name.
Take this "Tomorrow" episode. As a Space Seed and TWOK fan, I loathe everytime they bring Khan up. Using the villain from Space Seed in a movie was inspired. Doing it now feels desperate and makes that movie less special. I don't need to know more about his past, his descendants, his ancestors, or how Benedict Cumberbatch plays him.
Same goes for the Borg. And James Kirk and Spock. And frankly, this entire time period.
Perhaps this isn't the show for you.
Though, at this point in time Star Trek is going to be self-referential from here on out because that is what is scoring the biggest fan points.
Also, "The Naked Now," "Relics" "Unifications, pts. 1, 2 & 3," "In a Mirror Darkly," and on and on it goes.
This is not a new problem.
real life is self referential. the number of times I meet people I already know is countless. and if it works fine for me, it should also work for the fiction I consume
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No attempt to engage the argument, only invalidate it by implying there's something wrong with the way they processed the show and they should leave.
Indeed. But, humanity is also notorious for being blind to changes unless they somehow are viewed negatively.
Nope.This old line ->
No attempt to engage the argument, only invalidate it by implying there's something wrong with the way they processed the show and they should leave.
It is simply a valuation of your time and that maybe there is more enjoyment in something else. There absolutely nothing wrong with you. There is a lot wrong with me.
not every media fits every taste, that has nothing to do with you,This old line ->
No attempt to engage the argument, only invalidate it by implying there's something wrong with the way they processed the show and they should leave.
personally, I'm not a fan of Anime, so I chose not to watch it. that doesn't mean that Anime is bad or that I was watching it wrong. It just means it is not for me.
(also: not a big fan personally of ST: Prodigy or DISCO S3 onwards. guess what? I accepted it and stiopped watching those shows)
What would you rather? Absolutely no connection between the different series whatsoever?
Plus, Strange New Worlds is explicitly a prequel that features the Enterprise and several previous characters. If you don't like references then it quite literally is not the series for you.
Thank you. You put it better than I did. Well put.
There is a huge long list of shows that I do not enjoy, from SF, to fantasy, to crime shows. I don't care for horror at any level and actively avoid it. There are Star Trek shows I flat out ignore. It's a matter of valuing time over flogging entertainment.
Why do you think that people who disagree with you have a responsibility to "engage the argument?"This old line ->
No attempt to engage the argument, only invalidate it by implying there's something wrong with the way they processed the show and they should leave.
Maybe we just think it's a poorly-supported and silly position.
I think people see the Star Trek branding and immediately feel as though they have to watch it, whether they like it or not. That's why companies love sequels so much. But if you don't like Strange New Worlds, then just don't watch it.
Perhaps engaging in a way that puts everyone who enjoys the show in a negative perspective is the actual problem you are facing.This old line ->
No attempt to engage the argument, only invalidate it by implying there's something wrong with the way they processed the show and they should leave.
This feels like asking if a gold mine operator is cynically mining a vein of gold ore. And, to put a little more meat on the bone, I really do think SNW has enriched my appreciation of TOS and its characters.
Yeah, the insertion of "cynically" into the thread premise makes it hard to do anything other than dismiss it out of hand.
I missed most of the first two seasons of DS9 when they were first on because I just wasn't motivated enough to watch the series on a regular basis. It wasn't until the DS9 Season 2 finale and the TNG series finale in the spring of 1994 that I started watching the new spinoff series in earnest and grew to love it. Even at Trek's peak of Nielsen ratings popularity I just ignored Trek that didn't impress me.
I gave VOY 3 seasons before I decided to not invest any more time in that show, but that was mostly, because there was nothing else on TV at that time
