Spoilers Does it feel to anyone else that SNW is cynically mining Trek's past glories?

[zzz]

I had a similar issue with Enterprise Season 4, which I know most people loved, but I disliked. It feels like they're combing over past Trek's best work and clinging to its shirt tails. In Enterprise it was lore elements like the Klingon ridges, Augments, and Mirror Universe. In SNW it's specific episodes:

• Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow => City on the Edge of Tomorrow
• Ad Astra per Aspera => Measure of a Man
• The Broken Circle => stealing the Ent from STIII, and plot to ignite a war from STVI
• Those Old Scientists => Trials and Tribble-ations

It's inherently limiting. It's next to impossible to outdo the thing you're imitating. The best you can achieve is recreating the same feeling as the memory of the original story does. There's no creativity, no originality, no new top-tier stories that can join alongside those of the best of past Trek.

It's one step above going " 'member this nostalgia inducing-thing?"

 

[Hythlodeus]

to answer your question: No.

 

[fireproof78]

Nope.

Trek has been doing that since TMP.

 

[Tuskin38]

Not really

 

[Awesome Possum]

No, not at all.

 

[Midquest]

Nope. In fact, I feel Strange New Worlds is doing quite a lot to innovate and carve its own path.

 

[cooleddie74]

Trek's been mining its past glory ever since 1973 and TAS going into production. That said there's no reason why mining a concept can't result in tremendous benefits for an audience.

Most Trek produced in my lifetime has been good, great or at bare minimum watchable. So I'd say if this is mining past glory then it works and by all means go for it.

 

[Mudd]

Nope. SNW is improving on oldTrek in so many ways...

 

[fireproof78]

Trek's been mining its past glory ever since 1973 and TAS going into production. That said there's no reason why mining a concept can't result in tremendous benefits for an audience.

Most Trek produced in my lifetime has been good, great or at bare minimum watchable. So I'd say if this is mining past glory then it works and by all means go for it.

/thread.

 

[vulcancicada]

I'm stuck on 'most people loved Enterprise season 4'....didn't we all hate that?

 

[herofhyrule]

I thought Season 4 was widely considered to be the best season of Enterprise?

 

[fireproof78]

I'm stuck on 'most people loved Enterprise season 4'....didn't we all hate that?

I think it was better than the other three but still bad. Save for Demons and Terra Prime. I liked those.

 

[herofhyrule]

You didn't like "In a Mirror, Darkly"?

 

[fireproof78]

You didn't like "In a Mirror, Darkly"?

Ehhh...it was ok. It was not great until the Defiant showed up, and then it was a little fun but not great. I hated the ending.

 

[cooleddie74]

Four was the best season. It's rare for me to see anyone rank the fourth season as one they hate.

 

[vulcancicada]

I hate the ending! It soured the season. I have resentment. I think because I watched the whole season live and felt betrayed.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Season 4 is the best ENT season the same way Omicron is the best COVID variant.

That said, it could be worse, it could be Voyager

 

[DaveyNY]

Put me in the NOPE column as well.

And ENTERPRISE Season 4 was great.

The TNG add-on episode is what sucked.

 

[vulcancicada]

That being said, I don't think SNW is ripping off past trek. It's a trek show, it of course will explore similar themes as other trek series.

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

No.