Does anyone think Star Trek Legacy will ever happen?
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She didn't (she was enrolled in an "accelerated program").
Today's real-world military has different training programs established to suit different needs of different populations (The Academies, Officer Candidate School, Direct Commission Officer School, etc.).
Today's military grants direct commissions to people who have specialized skills that the military needs (Engineers, pharmacists, physicians, attorneys, chaplains, experts in unconventional warfare -- like Seven).
Seven had eighteen years of military experience with the Borg plus four years on Voyager PLUS her years as a Fenris Ranger. She's an engineer with expertise in Borg tech (it's the reason Picard gave her a Captain's field commission at the end of S2).
IMHC, she was given a direct commission on the basis of her extensive military and technical prowess. She was sent to the Starfleet equivalent of Direct Commission Officer School (DCOS).
Gene Roddenberry modeled Starfleet on the U.S. Navy. The U.S. Navy's DCOS program is where newly-minted direct commission officers go to learn the nuts and bolts of being in the U.S. Navy (history, traditions, protocols, basic seamanship, etc.).
Seven has more than earned a Commander's direct commission. She had the know-how to turn a team composed of a cook and several science/medical officers (including the ship's Doctor!) into a tactical assault unit.
The U.S. Navy doesn't leave its direct commission officers hanging ... and neither does Starfleet.
and yet despite all that Starfleet wanted nothing to do with her when Voyager returned. Janeway was even going to resign over it until Seven stopped her. All it took was both Picard and Janeway calling in numerous favors and leaning on the right people to not only get her a commission but commission as a full Commander.
Let’s just not pretend that she’s not there by the grace of very powerful friends/mentors.
Erm, no. While I’m okay with Sidney’s becoming first officer of the Ent-G along the way, I don’t really like the rest.
A better idea would be Jack effs off to the Q Continuum forever, while Raffi is killed on a mission by an old nemesis of Seven’s from her Fenris Ranger days. And Seven is unable to get revenge as she has to raise her and Raffi’s daughter; keeping her safe is what motivates Seven into taking one more five-year mission.
At least this approach breaks from the lonely captain trope that’s so common in Trek. Seven would be more like Sisko, except she’s commanding the Ent-G instead of a space station.
Why the need to kill Raffi?
The same novel-verse that basically doesn't exist anymore?
As long as there are novels, there will be a novel verse. It may not be the same one as the first Splinter, but they are still cranking out books.
Even then, the novel output in recent years is at record lows.
The novelverse we've got now is nothing like the sprawling relaunch era we had before the Coda trilogy ended it all.
Oh, I am well aware.
Charting the Novel-verse
Back in Dec. '08, I started a thread called "What you have to read before Articles of the Federation and Destiny" which was an attempt to list out all of the books that are consistent with the Pocket Books Trek universe. This list is longer than that list... By consistent, I mean by sharing...
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What does Raffi offer to the concept of Legacy to stick around?
She’s Seven’s on-again-off-again girlfriend?
What's the concept again? Nepobabies in Space?
The off again part making absolutely no sense and wasnt even brought up enough to be adding drama.
It still exists. The books are out there and written. A timeline branch inside the novel verse is gone in the storyline, but that doesn’t mean it never existed, and those books will always be there to go back to and revisit. And the main timeline continues, even if the books are slow to release. We got books from the Picard and Strange New Worlds series, Discovery, etc. heck, we have had a book years ago release on the specific Star Trek Online series which is its own timeline itself. I don’t think it would be an issue to release a book, or even a few books, detailing the adventures of Captain Seven, First Officer Raffi, and Ensign Picard aboard the Enterprise-G, formerly the Titan-A. Heck, one could almost justify Star Trek Legacy books a continuation of Star Trek Titan.
I'd hate to confine the adventures of Captain Seven -- given her shady past -- to the novelverse.
- Raffi knows the Starfleet bureaucracy (Her knowledge of the system helped Picard get his diplomatic credentials in Picard S1).
- Raffi has a better grasp of human relations than Seven.
- Raffi's tactical knowledge far exceeds Jack's.
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Which any first officer can do. Yes, even the "on-again, off again" girlfriend role.
Now, if Raffi was working with Jurati Collective to head up a new intelligence and science division on the ship, that would makes sense. At least it would make up for the lack of a Spock or Data onboard. And would fit in with the idea that the crew of the Ent-G is Seven’s collective and might be more comfortable with using Borg tech often.
A show that focuses on Seven, Raffi, Jack, the LaForge sisters and the Shawlogram indicates that Legacy will be big on tactical and engineering missions more that previous Star Trek shows. Presumably, anything to do with Elnor or Kestra Troi-Riker or Naomi Wildman would be related to tactical and engineering as well. And the best way for Mura, Esmar and Doctor Ohk to get screentime would be related to these specializations.
This means - or at least suggests - the crew will be performing follow up tactical or engineering related missions on Cardassia, Qo'noS, Coppelius, and the Romulan Free State…on a ship who’s name is synonymous with exploration and discovery of new worlds as it is synonymous with diplomacy. And they are not doing a whole lot of exploring. Just diplomatic followups.
Are we sure that this is an exciting enough premise of the show? Or should they be on a deep space mission, like all of the other Enterprises before it?
Does it matter? Because the show isn’t happening.
If anything were to happen to Raffi, I can't see Seven being that eager to enter another relationship on the rebound.
IOW, something more military than the campy hug-fest that is SNW? (Terry Matalas drew inspiration for Picard S3 from Crimson Tide.)
It would be a refreshing change for the franchise.
How many military movies have we had recently? (Zero Dark Thirty, The Hurt Locker, Black Hawk Down, etc.)
There's also the classics (i.e., Heartbreak Ridge, Full Metal Jacket, The Dirty Dozen, Apocalypse Now*).
In addition to it being military, I see it as being a character study of Seven of Nine (and all of her issues).
You can do all of that while being on a deep space mission at the same time.
* Ever since Apocalypse Now first played "Fortunate Son" in 1979, it's been a war movie staple ever since.
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