Does anyone else hope that any Trek XI medical scenes...

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

...will be a little more like 'er'? By that I mean I'd like to see a little blood spurting for a change. I want to hear injured crew members moaning like getting sliced by a bug eyed monster hurts. I want to see some phaser-induced seizures! I want some realistic medical situations, in other words. So often, on Trek, the medical scenes played out so tame and unrealistic. Does anyone else hope that this movie ends up being a little more edgy when it comes to medical drama?

 

[Tamek]

i'd like to see a little more than some magic spray and injuries that don't hurt, myself

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I don't want to see anything that a salt shaker can't fix.

 

[ancient]

I want zany loony-tunes sound effects whenever someone falls down.

 

[Capt.April]

ancient said:
I want zany loony-tunes sound effects whenever someone falls down.

LOL!

There was an Trek audio book I listned to that included details of McCoy's early days in Starfleet as a medical intern (after he recieved his MD). He was part of a starfleeet emergency medical team that would beam in to disaster areas or war zones to immediatly treat the survivors, similar to first responders in emergencies. This was supposed to be one of the key starfleet posts that shaped his future self. I thought it would be great to include in a movie or a revived star trek tv show. It was alot more graphic and moving than "ER" or any medical show.. It was more like "Black Hawk Down" meets "World Trade Center". Constant beaming into nightmare scenarios, broken bodies, screaming, blood, urine, guts, smells, sounds..Each beam in became harder and harder to take..a really good book, after a while you started dreading the next beam 'in' because you knew the first thing you would hear would be the screaming of the injured and the smell of death.. I think the author was speculating that this was the real reason McCoy hated the transporter..it wasn't the technology it was the memories that it brought up..

 

[StarMan]

I suddenly wish Hugh Laurie were cast as McCoy.

 

[Cyclonus]

Capt.April said:
There was an Trek audio book I listned to that included details of McCoy's early days in Starfleet as a medical intern (after he recieved his MD). He was part of a starfleeet emergency medical team that would beam in to disaster areas or war zones to immediatly treat the survivors, similar to first responders in emergencies. This was supposed to be one of the key starfleet posts that shaped his future self. I thought it would be great to include in a movie or a revived star trek tv show. It was alot more graphic and moving than "ER" or any medical show.. It was more like "Black Hawk Down" meets "World Trade Center". Constant beaming into nightmare scenarios, broken bodies, screaming, blood, urine, guts, smells, sounds..Each beam in became harder and harder to take..a really good book, after a while you started dreading the next beam 'in' because you knew the first thing you would hear would be the screaming of the injured and the smell of death.. I think the author was speculating that this was the real reason McCoy hated the transporter..it wasn't the technology it was the memories that it brought up..

Interesting...which book is this?

 

[Green Shirt]

StarMan said:
I suddenly wish Hugh Laurie were cast as McCoy.

With or without the cane?

 

[ITL]

klingongoat said:

StarMan said:
I suddenly wish Hugh Laurie were cast as McCoy.

With or without the cane?

Cane be damned!

This is the Laurie we want - see his stylish Trycoarder, by jove!

 

[Brutal Strudel]

ITL said:

klingongoat said:

StarMan said:
I suddenly wish Hugh Laurie were cast as McCoy.

With or without the cane?

Cane be damned!

This is the Laurie we want - see his stylish Trycoarder, by jove!

I'm not gay. At least, I wasn't until you posted that picture. Thanks a lot! Now I have to buy a whole new library of porn!

 

[scotthm]

Sisko_is_my_captain said:
...will be a little more like 'er'? By that I mean I'd like to see a little blood spurting for a change.

For a change? Are you not able to see enough spurting blood on the big screen now?

My vote would be no.

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[EyalM]

Trek is supposed to take place in a semi-utopian future. A part of that is showing a more "clean" and evolved medical practice. I don't mind seeing blood and such when someone is injured (helps make it more real), but I really don't want to see Urban fiddling with cow entrails.

 

[misskim86]

I'd love more gore but they want the movie pg

 

[22 Stars]

This is stupid, it's one thing to want realistic effects, including realistic injuries etc. but the whole POINT of Star Trek, is that through human ingenuity, and science we can accomplish things that LOOK unbelievable even magical to our 21st century eyes, with just a few hundred years of creativity and engineering.

Just 100 years ago, what lay person could have believed what is possible in a modern hospital, the workplace or even just the whole digital media revolution.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Samuel T. Cogley said:
I don't want to see anything that a salt shaker can't fix.

With all of the talk about salt shakers as medical props for the last four decades, for some reason your remark is the first time I've visualized the incongruity of McCoy pouring salt into peoples' wounds.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

It's not "stupid." Okay, fine, they have fantastic medical devices that can practically cure a rainy day... but the actual HUMAN BODY hasn't changed at all.

So... I think what's being discussed is showing realistic INJURIES. Not showing dull hacksaws cutting into flesh as part of surgery.

The whole point of the near-magical medical devices is that they can fix stuff that can't be fixed today. To truly drive that point home, you DO need to illustrate actual REAL INJURIES.

And real injuries do ooze and spurt and just are generally not "nice and clean" like we've become used to thinking when thinking of Trek.

We got only one truly gory bit in all of Trek... the mother parasite living in the body of the hapless Starfleet Command aide in "Conspiracy."

And that gore, frankly, wasn't very BELIEVABLE.

Reality is both messier and... well, more COMMON... than some folks would like to think.

I'm not hoping for any scenes of unnecessary gore in this film, don't get me wrong. But if there IS a disaster where medical care is required, and where there are injuries... I want it to be a little less "antiseptic and neat" than we're used to seeing in Trek.

"Make it real" would be my only request, in other words.

 

[Brian]

Brutal Strudel said:

ITL said:

klingongoat said:

StarMan said:
I suddenly wish Hugh Laurie were cast as McCoy.

With or without the cane?

Cane be damned!

This is the Laurie we want - see his stylish Trycoarder, by jove!

I'm not gay. At least, I wasn't until you posted that picture. Thanks a lot! Now I have to buy a whole new library of porn!

That pic turned you gay? You've got some taste issues there, bub.

I'm gay and it nearly turned me straight!

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Brutal Strudel said:
I'm not gay. At least, I wasn't until you posted that picture.

Greatest post ever.

 

[Kegek]

All this ER stuff is nonsense. We need to be on the cutting edge. I want to see crazy diseases. Not the stuff you'd see in ER, the kind of weird space viruses that do crazy things. Maybe they make you bend reality and travel through time. Maybe that's what this time travel is all about, some kind of temporal cancer.

 

[Corran Horn]

Starship Polaris said:

Samuel T. Cogley said:
I don't want to see anything that a salt shaker can't fix.

With all of the talk about salt shakers as medical props for the last four decades, for some reason your remark is the first time I've visualized the incongruity of McCoy pouring salt into peoples' wounds.

No wonder Gorkon died. And then McCoy beat on his chest in triumph!