Does anyone else dislike Raffi?
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Raffi: let's teleport him out
Seven: we can't mess up the timeline
Raffi: really seven time travel rules???
Seven: we can't mess up the timeline
Raffi: really seven time travel rules???
I liked Raffi from the start and that hasn't changed in season 2. I think she's a good match for Seven and that Michelle Hurd does a lot to make a flawed and damaged character more likeable than she might be on paper. The characters are the highlight of Picard for me, keeping me entertained even when the plot took a nosedive after episode 3, and I'm looking forward to her getting plenty to do in season 3.
"OK guys don't mess up the timeline and absolutely no phasers!"
*raffi blasts cop car window with phaser*
*raffi blasts cop car window with phaser*
I can't tell if this means you like her or not. You're just describing things she did!
She's alright? Good actress.
Didn't mind her in S1, although she grated here and there with Herd putting in a third-rate performance in several scenes (I haven't seen her in anything else, though some have claimed she's otherwise a good actress). How much of that was on the director asking her to overemote or what-have-you I don't know. Anyway, it was hit and miss.
As for S2, I can't stand her. Herd's performance hasn't gotten worse, but the writing of her character has turned her into a hot-headed imbecile - although in fairness, the writing of this season hasn't done any of the characters favours in the grey matter department.
The only character I find likeable at this juncture is Jurati.
Mission accomplished.
As for S2, I can't stand her. Herd's performance hasn't gotten worse, but the writing of her character has turned her into a hot-headed imbecile - although in fairness, the writing of this season hasn't done any of the characters favours in the grey matter department.
The only character I find likeable at this juncture is Jurati.
Mission accomplished.
She abandoned her son to save millions of Romulan refugees. That is the most Roddenberrian thing ever.
She would have even done a speech about how they've moved past traditional family obligations to embrace a higher morality.
Also, she smokes space pot, not shoots space smack.
Different drugs.
Space smack is the stuff those guys did in "Symbiosis."
Space pot is something I think we can all agree is a very different thing and has many uses in Bajoran rituals as well as traditional Denebulon medicine.
I never got that. Why not take her family with her? I mean she was only in Romulan space. Not the Delta Quadrant
Eh, dad may not have wanted to uproot himself to go aid in the evacuation of Space North Korea. The son blaming Raffi for this was something that always rang with the kind of blame game that happens in real life but doesn't really stand up to scrutiny.
She had a breakdown after she went all conspiracy theorist but the big difference between her and the majority of crazy people with chalkboards and string is Raffi was right. There was no false flag of 9/11 but there was lies about the Iraq War's WMDs.
Unfortunately, for Raffi, it seems her son and she couldn't reconcile after she was vindicated. Probably because he didn't care either way.
I wasn't too keen on Raffi in Season 1 due to her smoking and drinking (because Humans were supposed to be beyond such nonsense in the 24th century).
In actuality, I DO find her interesting as a character, but I don't think she was given proper ways to 'shine' if you know what I mean.
She may have been underutilized... and in PIC S2, she seemed way too hotheaded and cavalier (especially with the timeline being at stake).
There was an indication that I might like her more as a full fledged SF officer on the Excelsior... but it was barely a snippet before the team's consciousness were thrown into their alternate (Confederation) timeline bodies, and then physically went back to 2024.
In actuality, I DO find her interesting as a character, but I don't think she was given proper ways to 'shine' if you know what I mean.
She may have been underutilized... and in PIC S2, she seemed way too hotheaded and cavalier (especially with the timeline being at stake).
There was an indication that I might like her more as a full fledged SF officer on the Excelsior... but it was barely a snippet before the team's consciousness were thrown into their alternate (Confederation) timeline bodies, and then physically went back to 2024.
I like Michelle Hurd as an actress, so my liking Raffi is based a lot on my liking Hurd before I even knew she was in ST: Picard. I did have some quibbles, particularly in season 1, with Raffi's informality with Picard (which felt out of character for Picard), and I wasn't a fan of making the only Black main cast member a recovering (or when we first meet her full on) drug addict.
By the end of the first season, I did like that her "conspiratorial" ideas were proven correct. But really, the start of the second season is how I've liked her character depicted best. She felt more like an (organic) trusted confidante of Picard and a caring mentor for Elnor. I would've loved to have seen more of her on Excelsior, or just cut out that middleman (or starship) and make her first officer aboard Stargazer.
There's a kind of Ro Laren quality about Raffi, which I think opens the door to see a different side of Starfleet, which is cool. I also think Raffi has good chemistry with basically everyone in the cast. And if the writing was there the series could really develop the Raffi-Seven relationship.
By the end of the first season, I did like that her "conspiratorial" ideas were proven correct. But really, the start of the second season is how I've liked her character depicted best. She felt more like an (organic) trusted confidante of Picard and a caring mentor for Elnor. I would've loved to have seen more of her on Excelsior, or just cut out that middleman (or starship) and make her first officer aboard Stargazer.
There's a kind of Ro Laren quality about Raffi, which I think opens the door to see a different side of Starfleet, which is cool. I also think Raffi has good chemistry with basically everyone in the cast. And if the writing was there the series could really develop the Raffi-Seven relationship.
My headcanon is that when Picard and Scotty sit down to drink, the two of them spend at least an hour ****talking synthahol and whoever came up with it.
My big gripe with Raffi is the same one I have with many nu-Trek characters.
Emotionally immature, potentially mentally ill, unstable, unprofessional, and they just do not sell as functioning adults or starfleet officers.
This is not a fault of the actors- it's the fault of the writers. I'm sure they think they are creating teh drama and exciting character development- what they are actually doing is pulling people right out of their suspension of disbelief as it pertains to the characters.
Emotionally immature, potentially mentally ill, unstable, unprofessional, and they just do not sell as functioning adults or starfleet officers.
This is not a fault of the actors- it's the fault of the writers. I'm sure they think they are creating teh drama and exciting character development- what they are actually doing is pulling people right out of their suspension of disbelief as it pertains to the characters.
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