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Does anyone else dislike Keiko O'brien?

I also think that if she had been happy all the time and there hadn't been any tension in their relationship then we'd see exactly the same sort of thread we have right here, except the complaints would be more along the lines of, "That was so unrealistic! Keiko threw away everything when she moved to DS9 but then was the perfect submissive little wife when she got there! How stereotypical!"

Is there really away way to make her a stronger character, and still be a wife to the only major non-officer, and being only a civilian? If Keiko and the chief were officers, she could be more important. Still, she was a better character then Captain Picard's barber and looked blue.
 
All those excursions exploring the GQ and they never wanted a botonist? All the work Bashir did creating new vaccines and he could never have used a botonist?

There was plenty of interesting work for Keiko to do if her or the writers wanted to find it. I've known couples with careers that didn't work well with a relationship who managed to respect their marriage and each other far more than Keiko did.
 
She was not that important during DS9, just a wife and a mother. Still, O'Brian the man needed a wife. As I hate to say, if someone in Star Trek was going to come out as a gay character, it would have been him.

Really!?! If ANYONE could have been gay, it was Garak who has actually been said was a gay character. How does your gaydar pick up O'Brien more than anyone else?
 
She was not that important during DS9, just a wife and a mother. Still, O'Brian the man needed a wife. As I hate to say, if someone in Star Trek was going to come out as a gay character, it would have been him.

Really!?! If ANYONE could have been gay, it was Garak who has actually been said was a gay character. How does your gaydar pick up O'Brien more than anyone else?

I always got a bromance vibe off of Bashir and O'Brien. If anybody had to come out, it should have been those two. They got along great together (and even bickered like an old married couple) :)
 
maybe rosalind chao is a great actress,

I have seen her play parts in other shows where she was a bitch, like law and order CI.It seemed to come natural to her :lol:

All I know is I was enjoying Six Feet Under til I saw the dreaded "Guest Starring Rosalind Chao," and, lo and behold, she played a total bitch. Shocker, I know :eek:
 
I think it's a bit ludicrous that people accuse Keiko of being a "god-awful, horrible bitch" while failing to cite even one specific instance in which she behaved in that manner.


Read the second post in this thread, DonIago. My post.
 
Eh...Keiko became a bitch because she was jealous of Miles' boyfriend Julian. She wasn't nearly as disagreeable in the early episodes where she appeared more frequently and was living on the station. It was after she left the station and Miles hooked up with Julian that she was so harsh when she returned for visits
 
Think about when the 2 of them are discussing about how they always eat what she wants to eat so she agrees to try his favorite foods. She complains the whole time he describes Irish cuisine then is discusted when it is laid before her and she barely tries it. I understand if she is vegan or something, but she was very disrespectful of something he enjoyed.

They were newly married at that point, though. In fact, they had been married just the previous episode. They'd naturally be settling in and getting used to being married, which includes getting to know what your spouse likes and doesn't like.
 
Eh...Keiko became a bitch because she was jealous of Miles' boyfriend Julian. She wasn't nearly as disagreeable in the early episodes where she appeared more frequently and was living on the station. It was after she left the station and Miles hooked up with Julian that she was so harsh when she returned for visits

Another good reason for her not to leave so much. And think of Julian, with Keiko gone, HE kept getting cock blocked by miles.
 
I couldn't stand the character of Keiko the less I saw of her the better.If anything Miles,should have stayed single.
 
At least Rejal's bickering (Gilora, not the poster Gul Re'jal) wasn't intended to destroy, and Rejal was willing to admit when she was wrong. I never saw Keiko do the latter part.
 
At least Rejal's bickering (Gilora, not the poster Gul Re'jal) wasn't intended to destroy, and Rejal was willing to admit when she was wrong. I never saw Keiko do the latter part.

I liked Keiko O'Brien's character. Some of you are commenting and saying that she always whines and moans at O'Brien but it's not really that, it happens when problems arise. Keiko is probably the most realistic wife Star Trek has ever portrayed. Seriously my parents are happily married for about 22 years, but every day there is always some little problem where a few heated words or complaints are exchanged.

That's marriage (and life; two people cooped up together are bound to inevitably argue), but as O'Brien says you then kiss and make up because you love your spouse. I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.

Besides just because we haven't actually seen Keiko admit she is wrong about something (though she must have done so once in an episode) doesn't mean she's stubborn and all. I'm pretty certain that Keiko and O'Brien's marriage would not have lasted for so long if Keiko could never admit she is wrong.
 
I don't get the Keiko-hate. It seems as though the Keiko-haters only recall the fights the O'Briens had, and think she did nothing but nag and complain. :rolleyes: It's not as though Miles was perfect and Keiko was just permanently grouchy.
They acted like a real married couple too me.
I think they had great chemistry together.
When they looked at each other, you really believed they were in love and when she did nag him, you believed it too.
They sold me as real.
I don't care how we men play it off as king of the castle but in the home, a women is ALWAYS the boss. Keiko was all that.
Actually, I wanna know how many of those that are Kieko haters are married themselves?
 
I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.

I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

"OMG the woman is the dominant one?! What the hell she's a BITCH!!!"
 
I also thought Keiko was the dominant one in the relationship (well in family matters anyway), and in nearly every marriage you always get one partner who tends to be (to a lesser or greater extent) a bit more prominent, vocal and dominant than the other.

I wonder if this isn't part of the 'problem'?

"OMG the woman is the dominant one?! What the hell she's a BITCH!!!"
The woman IS the dominate one.
Seriously, it doesn't matter what bills you pay or how strong you are, if you do something really wrong, your woman WILL chase you out your own house!:eek:
 
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