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I would love to see novels set in the Kelvin universe. We don't know what the new series will be about, and with a new movie every 3-4 years there's a lot of space in-between to fill. I say bring it.
Do you want ongoing novels on the Kelvin Universe
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No we are not.
Oh, there's a poll. Not sure how I missed that yesterday. Voted 'yes'.
Were you really "promised" it though, or were they just books that were announced, then quietly cancelled, which is not unheard of. If you're financially out something, then maybe... but in this case, as much as I'd like to know too, I wouldn't say they owe us anything.
Besides, we're still waiting for the explanation that they "owe" us for not releasing The God Thing. Get in line!
Were you really "promised" it though, or were they just books that were announced, then quietly cancelled, which is not unheard of. If you're financially out something, then maybe... but in this case, as much as I'd like to know too, I wouldn't say they owe us anything.
Besides, we're still waiting for the explanation that they "owe" us for not releasing The God Thing. Get in line!
Now we have both the Prime and the Kelvin.
It's perhaps worth noting that movies and TV shows are frequently announced with great fanfare, but never make it to the screen. We all remember Brian DePalma's epic film adaptation of THE DEMOLISHED MAN, right? Or Bryan Singer's remake of LOGAN'S RUN? Or the Ridley Scott version of I AM LEGEND starring Arnold Schwarzenegger? Or the Hammer Films version of VAMPIRELLA? Or Rose McGowan as RED SONJA? Or Brigitte Nielsen as SHE-HULK? Or the movie-musical version of THE SILVER SURFER starring Olivia Newton-John?
(I swear to God I'm not making that last one up.)
Heck, I still have a paperback copy of THE DEMOLISHED MAN from the late seventies that says "Soon to be a Major Motion Picture!" on the cover. And I could name several other sf and horror novels that ran similar blurbs on their covers--that turned out to be a bit premature.
These things happen. No explanation is necessarily required or owed.
(I swear to God I'm not making that last one up.)
Heck, I still have a paperback copy of THE DEMOLISHED MAN from the late seventies that says "Soon to be a Major Motion Picture!" on the cover. And I could name several other sf and horror novels that ran similar blurbs on their covers--that turned out to be a bit premature.
These things happen. No explanation is necessarily required or owed.
I wouldn't go so far as to say we are "entitled" to know why.
But it would just be good customer relations on the part of TPTB to at least give some little blurb explaining in basic terms why there can't be any Kelvin Timeline novels, to at least act like they care, instead of just calling the whole thing off without a word. In business, it's important to pretend to be nice to people.
Kor
But it would just be good customer relations on the part of TPTB to at least give some little blurb explaining in basic terms why there can't be any Kelvin Timeline novels, to at least act like they care, instead of just calling the whole thing off without a word. In business, it's important to pretend to be nice to people.
Kor
Amen to that. Anything that allows me to imagine Karl Urban growling his way through some dialogue is alright in my book.
If it was a wider audience thing, then it'd be important, but I'm not sure that any foreseeable impact in sales over the rest of time for not doing it would be worth the cost of drafting up the press release. It's important to pretend to be nice to people in business if not doing so would be a greater overall projected decrease in revenue than the expense invested in doing so. (At least, from a purely financial perspective, but I get the impression that was where you were arguing from too since you're talking about customer relations and pretending to be nice.
)I would be surprised if the number of people whose consumer decisions were impacted to any degree by Bad Robot not explaining why they aren't allowing Nutrek novels was in the triple digits. (Honestly, I'd be surprised if it was the double digits, but I'm being generous.
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Well, I don't think it would need a whole page-long press release... just insert a note into one of the regular communications on new stuff and whatnot.
For instance, something like "This is a great time for Star Trek fans, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, the planned tie-in novels to the new movie continuity are canceled due to ___________. Instead, enjoy these wonderful Trek books/comics that are scheduled to be released over the coming months..."
Kor
For instance, something like "This is a great time for Star Trek fans, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, the planned tie-in novels to the new movie continuity are canceled due to ___________. Instead, enjoy these wonderful Trek books/comics that are scheduled to be released over the coming months..."
Kor
I think sometimes TPTB realize that the more they say, the more that will be taken out of context and used as a basis for fauxrage.
Yeah, it could also be that while saying nothing will make some upset, giving the reason will make more upset, legitimately or not. Unless you'd also be happier with a fake reason than none at all?
I think the reason was "several grown adults got pissy over how the novels would be licensed/marketed and how the revenue would be shared and they decided to just scrap the whole thing."
Hard to polish that one up for PR purposes.
I think the things that makes it the most confusing, at least for me, is that they did the YA SFA novels. If there were no Kelvin Timeline novels at all, it would be a lot easier to shrug if off. Then there's also the fact that the books actually got as far as being featured in the catalog with blubs and cover art and everything. It just seems a little strange to me that they actually let things get that far before they changed their minds.
There was such an announcement made, back when it became known that the books were cancelled.
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2010/01/star-trek-xi-tie-in-novels-postponed/
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2010/01/star-trek-xi-tie-in-novels-postponed/
Oh sorry, I should have clarified; I was asking Kor, not you.
I think the reason was "several grown adults got pissy over how the novels would be licensed/marketed and how the revenue would be shared and they decided to just scrap the whole thing."
Hard to polish that one up for PR purposes.
I voted yes for original novels set in the alternate timeline. I had been looking forward to those four books that had been scheduled. It didn't turn out all bad, I think part of the reason I've gravitated towards the "80's TOS novel continuity" books is to fill the void of wanting to experience more stories in an alternative version/interpretation of TOS. I've really been enjoying those books so far.
Hello, new poster.
I am not a fan of the "Kelvin" universe as it is being called; but if these novels are well-written and good storytelling they will sell.
That universe is not my "Star Trek".
I am not a fan of the "Kelvin" universe as it is being called; but if these novels are well-written and good storytelling they will sell.
That universe is not my "Star Trek".
Well, the great thing about Star Trek is that it's not just one thing for one audience. It's multiple different series appealing to multiple different tastes. Nobody's required to like every part of it, and nobody's expected to. That's the whole point of doing such a large and diverse franchise -- to offer something for every taste so that nobody feels left out. So the fact that there are parts of it that don't appeal to you isn't taking anything away from you. You can like the parts you like, and other people can like the parts they like. It's that sheer diversity of appeal that's made it such a beloved and successful franchise. You may not like the current movies, but maybe you'll love the new TV series, or the next movie reboot a decade from now, or whatever. The fact that it's diverse and changeable enough to include parts you don't like actually improves the chances that it will eventually add something new that you do like.
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