Do you think they should/will reboot the Star Wars prequels?

[LJones41]

1. Yes, I give a shit about the new stuff coming out.
2. Plenty of people enjoy them. I just deny that they're a majority or that their enjoyment somehow makes them good movies.

You deny that there are many fans of the PT, because of your own feelings about them? Is that what you're saying? If not, what do you mean?

By the way, just because sthere are many people who dislike the PT, does not mean that it is a fact that they're bad. Like others have pointed out, art and entertainment are subjective.

 

[fireproof78]

Personally, I share your feelings. In fact, "AOTC" is one of two SW movies that I enjoy more than the others.

Look, there's some common ground between us

Speaking more broadly in my general experience, as well as reviewing articles online, AOTC is less well received of the PT. But, that opinion seems to be changing as the PT is reevaluated over the years. I don't think the PT is equal to the OT, but that's because the OT was a unique thing.

That said, the love the PT receives is a new experience for me, and was not shared when the films first came out. I'm glad others had a more positive experience, but that was not mine, my friends or my family's. So, different experiences for different people, none of which is "wrong." Just different. And, until I came on this board, the majority of experience with the PT reported on other forums, places and fan groups, was negative.

 

[Smellmet]

I'd argue that AOTC is the most visually ambitious film out of the three, and pushed the technology of the time to it's limits, and it shows - they just couldn't quite pull some bits of it off like they would have today. TPM was made using a lot less CGI, and that shows too, with crisper cinematography in parts due to it being shot with traditional cameras instead of the digital ones of the other two. ROTS is by default the newer film so you'd expect the effects to be better - and they are, but they'll have only been refined off the techniques used on the back of the previous movie.

Putting the technicalities to one side for a moment, there's only some cheesy romance dialogue and the droid factory that really let this film down in the main, and I think it get slated for these two thing a disproportionate amount, I mean they're nowhere near as big a feature of that movie than the crappy Ewoks were in ROTJ, yet that gets a much bigger pass from people, probably a combination of nostalgia and the excellent space battle/emperor's throne room scenes that elevate the third act so much.

I'm not saying I love ATOC, I'd still think it's near the bottom of the list out of all the films - but hey someone's got to be. TPM I would put at the bottom, but I still think it's a pretty decent sci fi blockbuster. They just made some choices I didn't like in it, but I can still enjoy it.

 

[Venardhi]

You deny that there are many fans of the PT, because of your own feelings about them? Is that what you're saying? If not, what do you mean?

By the way, just because sthere are many people who dislike the PT, does not mean that it is a fact that they're bad. Like others have pointed out, art and entertainment are subjective.

 

[Kor]

My view has long been that the PT movies are supposed to be bad.

Think about it. SW is supposed to be an homage to the thrilling Saturday afternoon matinee cliffhanger serials of yesteryear, with all their larger-than-life one-dimensional cookie-cutter characters and oodles of painfully stilted acting and dialog.

Let's quit the nitpicking and just accept the PT for what it is: riotous cult cinema given a big budget for the postmodern age. It's the kind of thing that should be shown at midnight costume parties. Am I right, or what?

Kor

 

[fireproof78]

It has merit, maybe.

It's a conspiracy. Where's that tinfoil hat forum?

 

[Lowdarzz]

No. The stories are sound, only the dialog and acting are poor. They also spawned a great deal of material that was subsequently used in the superior Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons.

 

[Ithekro]

The only actual one of the films that could use a remake is A New Hope, and that would also be the hardest to do.

 

[Smellmet]

The only actual one of the films that could use a remake is A New Hope, and that would also be the hardest to do.

That film has been butchered enough!

 

[Ithekro]

If nothing else, I could go for A New Hope remake with Ewan McGregor as old Obi-wan "Ben" Kenobi. And then work from there going forwards. Realistically, that probably isn't all that good of an idea, but it is possible in another ten or so years. It also could have Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo.

 

[fireproof78]

Remaking ANH would be a poor choice that, honestly, I would only trust to Lucas. Star Wars is simply too big now to capture the desperate situation that Lucas found himself in while trying to create it, and many artistic decisions were made due to money and time restraints. There also would not be the fear on the part of the studio that this "stupid kid's film" would end up losing money.

 

[Smellmet]

Remaking ANH would be a poor choice that, honestly, I would only trust to Lucas. Star Wars is simply too big now to capture the desperate situation that Lucas found himself in while trying to create it, and many artistic decisions were made due to money and time restraints. There also would not be the fear on the part of the studio that this "stupid kid's film" would end up losing money.

I just don't see what purpose it would serve.

Would it be better than the original? Not a chance in hell.

Would it even make as much money? Very unlikely.

Would they end up cramming loads of pointless CG set pieces into it? Probably.

To say nothing of the ramifications for the rest of the franchise - does this mean the rest would be remade?

The original 1977 movie was quite literally 'lightning in a bottle' the likes of which only come around once a generation. A remake would just crap all over it's legacy, which in my opinion, trumps pretty much every other film in history in terms of cultural impact, box office success, technical achievements, merchandising, the list goes on. Just leave it alone.

They are doing the right thing with the franchise at the moment, creating sequels, new characters/stories, and expanding the SW universe. Remaking ANH is an inward-looking move when what they are trying to do is expand the franchise.

 

[fireproof78]

I just don't see what purpose it would serve.

Would it be better than the original? Not a chance in hell.

Would it even make as much money? Very unlikely.

Would they end up cramming loads of pointless CG set pieces into it? Probably.

To say nothing of the ramifications for the rest of the franchise - does this mean the rest would be remade?

The original 1977 movie was quite literally 'lightning in a bottle' the likes of which only come around once a generation. A remake would just crap all over it's legacy, which in my opinion, trumps pretty much every other film in history in terms of cultural impact, box office success, technical achievements, merchandising, the list goes on. Just leave it alone.

They are doing the right thing with the franchise at the moment, creating sequels, new characters/stories, and expanding the SW universe. Remaking ANH is an inward-looking move when what they are trying to do is expand the franchise.

No, there is no purpose in remaking the PT or the OT. As much as I don't like the PT, or agree with all the choices, the films are done, and I can at least respect that fact.

 

[Prax]

New Thread:
Do you think they should/will reboot the Star Wars Ewok Films?

 

[Smellmet]

No, there is no purpose in remaking the PT or the OT. As much as I don't like the PT, or agree with all the choices, the films are done, and I can at least respect that fact.

They are all groundbreaking films that tell a grand, epic tale, and for better or worse they have formed their own 'canon' much like trek has. I don't want to see it rewritten in an attempt to cash in, when quite frankly, the franchise is in very rude health. Trek was rebooted when it was on it's backside, and it was right to do so at the time, but at least it preserved what had came before whilst doing it's own thing. Remaking any of the SW movies would just be wrong to me, and totally unnecessary.

Stuff like Rogue one manages to fill in little bits of the tapestry that's been weaved whilst still being entertaining films in their own right and I'm sure the han solo film will do the same. This really is the right way to go with the franchise alongside the saga movies. When one of these films disappoints commercially and critically then we'll see what Disney can come up with. Right now though the Star wars franchise has never been in better health, and a marvel-style renaissance beckons.

 

[Set Harth]

My view has long been that the PT movies are supposed to be bad.

"I meant to do that!" - Pee-Wee Herman

 

[Reverend]

New Thread:
Do you think they should/will reboot the Star Wars Ewok Films?

What would be the point? They're perfect in every way and can never be equalled! Now a Teek anthology movie on the other hand would be a great idea. What fan hasn't speculated about the history and origin of the true unsung hero of the Star Wars saga and how he ended up with a geriatric human sidekick?!

 

[Ithekro]

There could always be a film about the farther adventures of Cindel Towani. Not sure what Aubree Miller is doing now, but she's nearly 40.

 

[LJones41]

Trek was rebooted when it was on it's backside, and it was right to do so at the time, but at least it preserved what had came before whilst doing it's own thing.

With the exception of the last "TREK" film, I don't think the franchise did a very good job.

I don't think the PT is equal to the OT, but that's because the OT was a unique thing.

I think the PT is equal to the OT. And yes, there are many people who do share my feelings. Just as there are many people who do not. But why are there so many people who believe that their feelings about the movies are fact, instead of opinions?

 

[fireproof78]

With the exception of the last "TREK" film, I don't think the franchise did a very good job.

I don't think the PT did a very good job with Star Wars franchise.

I think the PT is equal to the OT. And yes, there are many people who do share my feelings. Just as there are many people who do not. But why are there so many people who believe that their feelings about the movies are fact, instead of opinions?

Because arguments are presented as being facts, not feelings. In this thread I have read multiple times that "The PT is as good as the OT" but very rarely is there a "Why" attached to the reasoning. It's simply stated as fact, and if I, the reader, can't figure it out, then clearly I am a "hater."

I have read several different opinions about the PT, but rarely do I hear them be compared in quality to the OT. PT jokes and the like abound around and around on the internet, in many different circles, both fandom, and non-fandom, so it's hard not to regard the PT has a bit of a laughing stock status.

If there is this large supportive fan base, I would love to be engaged and discuss with them, and see their arguments. But, I haven't found it, save for one site right now. Everything else, that I have read, is snipping and sarcastic and ad hominen attacks.