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Poll Do you think that DSC will inspire another "Prime Universe" film?

Will Discovery prompt another Prime Universe film?

  • Yes, I think there's a strong possibility that there will be another Prime film

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • It's a possibility, depending on whether or not DSC does well

    Votes: 16 19.8%
  • I doubt it, regardless of the level of success DSC achieves, or doesn't achieve

    Votes: 35 43.2%
  • There will never be another Prime Universe film

    Votes: 26 32.1%

  • Total voters
    81
Captain America - Civil war showed a compturised young Tony Stark, the actor is in his 40's, so a computerised, young looking Pike and Quinto can do a cameo on Discovery.
 
Captain America - Civil war showed a compturised young Tony Stark, the actor is in his 40's, so a computerised, young looking Pike and Quinto can do a cameo on Discovery.
Personally, I'd rather stare at post-accident Pike-face for an hour than have to see another monstrosity like Princess Uncanny Val-Leia from the end of Rogue One again. *Shudder* Flashbacks to Polar Express. It's just too easy to go horribly horribly wrong once you go down that path.

 
The question, in my mind, would be is there a compelling reason to set a film in the prime universe? What does that continuity offer that indispensable? What about the prime universe is going to sell more tickets than the kelvin universe?

Nostalgia mostly.
 
Captain America - Civil war showed a compturised young Tony Stark, the actor is in his 40's, so a computerised, young looking Pike and Quinto can do a cameo on Discovery.

We also got a "young" Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN and, judging from the trailer, we're getting a "young" Johnny Depp in the next PIRATES movie.

I have to say: the technology is getting better and better. The rejuvenated Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN was pretty convincing.
 
Happens all the time with these series. The contracts are renegotiated, and the actors generally get more money to continue.

Therein lies the problem, though - more money for the cast means a higher budget and greater pressure on the film to perform in order to make a profit.

That was an increasing problem with TOS and TNG, and most of them were not exactly in high demand for other work.

I can't imagine the full cast being back for a fifth Kelvin film - hell, I'm crossing my fingers that we even get a fourth.
 
I can't imagine the full cast being back for a fifth Kelvin film - hell, I'm crossing my fingers that we even get a fourth.

I'm sure nobody in Paramount has a concrete answer on that, or perhaps even the information and/or authority to make that decision. I think that there is turmoil within Paramount right now. They underperformed in 2016 to the point where they replaced the CEO. More people will lose their jobs as he as he brings in his own people, attempts to change culture, broaden business channels, etc. Yes Star Trey Beyond didn't do very well, but it was in the context of a bad year to the point where the blame went all the way to the top. So it may be forgiven. On the positive side there have been press announcements that Star Trek is important. Fingers crossed over here as well. I'm sure that the success level of DSC will influence the decision.
 
So, what do you folks think of another Prime Universe film happening? If Discovery does very well, I could see Paramount possibly considering another Prime movie... but I doubt it. I don't think they would want to "confuse" the mass-market, as the JJ films exist in an entirely separate timeline... Then again, I understand that the status of Discovery being in the Prime Universe is a tad up in the air right now (Soft reboot? Starts out in Prime, but some inter-dimensional stuff comes into play?).

I also realize I'm putting the cart ahead of the horse. That said, I'm just interested in what the community here thinks of this.

Anyways, thoughts?

:)
Probably not. I mean, nothing wrong with dreaming. I'd love to see a DS9 feature film, but there's no way in hell that's happening. Still, a man can dream. That being said, the Kelvin universe films are likely what we're getting for the long haul, even if Discovery is successful, which I hope it is. I hope they both are. I want more Star Trek!
 
I've never understood this kind of scheduling. All it does is erode the audience.
It's the inevitable move towards merging TV and cinema; 13 episodes with roughly 2-3 weeks to shoot each one usually means the actors won't have to work so many super late nights and weekends to finish shooting, and it also means they can take other projects in the downtime, and it also gives the writers producers and post more time to polish each show before it airs.
 
Personally, I'd rather stare at post-accident Pike-face for an hour than have to see another monstrosity like Princess Uncanny Val-Leia from the end of Rogue One again. *Shudder* Flashbacks to Polar Express. It's just too easy to go horribly horribly wrong once you go down that path.

We also got a "young" Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN and, judging from the trailer, we're getting a "young" Johnny Depp in the next PIRATES movie.

I have to say: the technology is getting better and better. The rejuvenated Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN was pretty convincing.

Point is the technology isn't quite there yet to pull it off convincingly. It would have been much better if they just used actress Ingvild Deila to portray Princess Leia without the CGI "enhancement".
 
We also got a "young" Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN and, judging from the trailer, we're getting a "young" Johnny Depp in the next PIRATES movie.

I have to say: the technology is getting better and better. The rejuvenated Michael Douglas in ANT-MAN was pretty convincing.
If they keep that up Hollywood won't need real actors in the future, save them a ton of money.
 
Filmmaking from Hollywood has entered a phase in its productions, more of a focus on its major franchises on the belt then creating anything entirely new. Paramount for example is focusing on its major long time heavy hitters, like Star Trek. I expect if SDV does really well, there might be a film, or if the series ended unexpectedly and there was enough demand by fans there might be a direct to DVD release. slim but possible.
 
ST4 will, from what I hear, be the final Kelvin-verse film. So it's a very open-ended question as to which universe any subsequent films (if there ever are any) would involve.
One one hand, I think there will someday (even after a possible 4th Kelvin Universe film) be another Star Trek film, and quite possibly in the prime universe; I truly doubt they will ever totally abandon the extended franchise. Some might call it a reboot (and hence a defacto separate universe), but if we are told that it occurs in the Prime Universe, then there is no reason why it necessarily could not be in the Prime Universe.

On the other hand, I don't think this series will directly spawn another Prime Universe film (which is the OP's question).

I do think there will in fact someday be another Prime Universe film series, and if this series is successful, that success would play a part into the perceived viability (perceived by future film producers) of another film or films.
 
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One one hand, I think there will someday (even after a possible 4th Kelvin Universe film) be another Star Trek film, and quite possibly in the prime universe; I truly doubt they will ever totally abandon the extended franchise. Some might call it a reboot (and hence a defacto separate universe), but if we are told that it occurs in the Prime Universe, then there is no reason why it necessarily could not be in the Prime Universe.

On the other hand, I don't think this series will directly spawn another Prime Universe film (which is the OP's question).

I do think there will in fact someday be another Prime Universe film series, and if this series is successful, that success would play a part into the perceived viability (perceived by future film producers) of another film or films.
Interesting points. Thanks for sharing your view :)
 
I think the only way we would see another prime universe movie would be if Discovery did quite well and after it's run (seven years?) there was then a Discovery movie.

Yes, but it would have to do spectacularity well.

Even so, it may not suit the cinema format after we get used to the serialised nature of it on TV and how they can slowly expand the characters and stories.

Time will tell. ;)
 
I think the Prime timeline is gone. I believe this is another reboot. All there will be is the Discovery timeline and the Kelvin timeline. The Prime timeline will live in reruns only. That's what I think at least.
 
It's also worth noting that there are all sorts of possible gradations here:

100% Prime. Guaranteed.

Mostly Prime, but fudging a few things.

Prime-ish.

Prime! Prime! What is Prime?
 
I think the Prime timeline is gone. I believe this is another reboot. All there will be is the Discovery timeline and the Kelvin timeline. The Prime timeline will live in reruns only. That's what I think at least.

If only ST Enterprise had properly established itself as an alternate universe because of the temporary cold war, it would have been much easier for it to move forward...
 
There is another point at issue. Paramount is in a tough spot because the members of its Star Trek cast are getting more expensive. Furthermore, you still have the rumor about Chris Hemsworth, one of of the highest paid actors. Perhaps Paramount sees the value in Star Trek 4 still. Certainly, new CEO is reevaluating their spending. He could pay for the costs of the project or could request a different project, that costs less than this. But I think there will be a sequel to Star Trek Beyond.
Discovery needs to gain ground. It is still too early to release a movie. Maybe, after two seasons.
 
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