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Do YOU think Telek'R'Mor got the messages to starfleet?

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To recap, VOY s1, "eye of the needle" - Voyager manages to use a micro-wormhole to transport a Romulan in the alpha quadrant, he ends up being from 2151, crew decides against going back with him, he promises to deliver crew messages to starfleet in 2171, but dies before several years before that. Janeway hypothesizes that he left a note in his will to deliver them.

What do you think?
 
Ah, that is one of those "loose ends" which I've always wondered about.
I would really like to have seen that being followed up in some way in an episode or book.

I don't think that the messages were delivered to Starfleet. He died before Voyager ended up in the Delta Quadrant and I guess that the microchip with the messages ended up in his daughter's possesion, together with the rest of his personal things. Due to the somewhat strained relations between the Federation and the Romulan Empire, Telek R'Mor's daughter was unable to leave the messages to the Federation headquarters.

I would love to see a future Voyager story in some book where Janeway meets Telek R'Mor's daughter and gets the messages back, also with some interesting conversation between the two of them about what happened after R'Mor got the messages.
 
To recap, VOY s1, "eye of the needle" - Voyager manages to use a micro-wormhole to transport a Romulan in the alpha quadrant, he ends up being from 2151, crew decides against going back with him, he promises to deliver crew messages to starfleet in 2171, but dies before several years before that. Janeway hypothesizes that he left a note in his will to deliver them.

What do you think?

surely u mean 2351 and 2371 yes?
 
I don't think that they did based upon the events of Voyager's Inside Man in season seven but that is a conjectural opinion.

In the episode Barclay tells Admiral Paris he thinks that the Romulans are behind his missing hologram because they have been interested in Voyager for years. I think that the Romulan Government took the letters.
 
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I never watched that episode so I wasn't aware of that comment.

It would be really interesting to know more about what happened. Did R'Mor give the letters to the Romulan government or was he forced to do so? had his death something to do with the incident and what happened to his daughter?

Some interesting questions here.
 
I also believe they were never delivered. I think maybe Mark would have waited for Janeway if he had received her letter.
 
Why didn't they just tell him to give the chip over right away with a 'do not open until' date on it? You'd think they would have thought about him dying or any other scenario in which he wouldn't be able to do it. Seems kind of silly to overlook that.
 
In the episode Barclay tells Admiral Paris he thinks that the Romulans are behind his missing hologram because they have been interested in Voyager for years. I think that the Romulan Government took the letters.
This what I always have believed too. My guess is the Romulan gov't somehow got a hold of the letters. Why they would keep the letters is beyond me, but they're Romulans. They probably think the "Voyager Mission" is some plot to overthrow their government.

It would have been neat if we found out one of the Vulcans on board was actually a Romulan spy placed there just for the Badland mission.
 
Here's what memory alpha says:

As Starfleet did not learn of Voyager's circumstances until season 4's "Message in a Bottle", it is clear that they never did receive the crew's letters. Torres surmises at the end of the episode that, in spite of R'Mor's death prior to 2371, he may have passed Voyager's chip onto the Romulan Government.


In the noncanon Pocket novel series this is what happened:

In the 2350s, the Tal Shiar sponsored a number of experiments involving artificial wormholes and cloaking devices that utilised dark matter, that were performed by Doctor Telek R'Mor and Ambassador Lhiau. By 2356, the experiments were proved successful and Chairman Jekri Kaleh had thirteen D'deridex-class warbirds equipped with dark matter cloaking devices.

Following a presentation of the new technology to the Romulan Senate, the fleet of Romulan warbirds set out through an artificial wormhole to travel into the 2370s and capture the USS Voyager and bring it back to the 2350s, where they could use the starship's advanced technology. Thankfully, the Tal Shiar were unable to gain Voyager's advanced technology, but instead massed over 4,000 vessels along the Romulan Neutral Zone and prepared to attack five Federation colonies along the border, and using their dark matter cloaks and wormhole technology attack Earth, Vulcan, Bolarus IX, and Starbases 12, 74, and 212.

Thankfully, Lhiau and R'Mor were able to return to Romulus after escaping to Voyager and inform the Romulan Senate of the Tal Shiar's and Kaleh's plans to invade the Federation. The Empress was able to put an end to the assault, labelling the whole mission an exercise, and ordered that all dark matter technology be removed. With her great mission a failure, Kaleh retired from the Tal Shiar.
 
In the episode Barclay tells Admiral Paris he thinks that the Romulans are behind his missing hologram because they have been interested in Voyager for years. I think that the Romulan Government took the letters.
This what I always have believed too. My guess is the Romulan gov't somehow got a hold of the letters. Why they would keep the letters is beyond me, but they're Romulans. They probably think the "Voyager Mission" is some plot to overthrow their government.

It would have been neat if we found out one of the Vulcans on board was actually a Romulan spy placed there just for the Badland mission.

Did I hear someone whisper "Vorik"? ;)
 
I doubt it as nobody seems to have any idea that Voyager is in the DQ until after the Doctor makes it to the AQ in the Message in a Bottle episode.
 
Lest we forget, the Dark Matter cloaking devices also had the nasty habit of eventually killing those that used or were in proximity to such devices in rather nasty ways, if memory serves. Good 3 parts series, though, with an unexpected twist at the end.
 
In the episode Barclay tells Admiral Paris he thinks that the Romulans are behind his missing hologram because they have been interested in Voyager for years. I think that the Romulan Government took the letters.
This what I always have believed too. My guess is the Romulan gov't somehow got a hold of the letters. Why they would keep the letters is beyond me, but they're Romulans. They probably think the "Voyager Mission" is some plot to overthrow their government.

It would have been neat if we found out one of the Vulcans on board was actually a Romulan spy placed there just for the Badland mission.

I agree that there's no way the Romulan govt. would let the messages get through. They would almost certainly decide that they were a conspiracy or a code. At the very least they wouldn't want the Federation to know Voyager was alive and thus possibly have access to the "secrets" of the Delta Quadrant before they did.

And, no, one of the Vulcans should not have been a Romulan. They did that with Seska already.
 
It would have been neat if we found out one of the Vulcans on board was actually a Romulan spy placed there just for the Badland mission.

Did I hear someone whisper "Vorik"? ;)

Guilty :o

I would have loved to see that.

Does that mean he faked his Pn far in Blood fever or that Romulans get the pon far too... Well, we figured out in ST III that it's totally Biological and has nothing to do with the downside of their emotional control.
 
Does that mean he faked his Pn far in Blood fever or that Romulans get the pon far too... Well, we figured out in ST III that it's totally Biological and has nothing to do with the downside of their emotional control.


Of course he faked it. What's a Drama Queen Romulan to do?
 
Since the Vulcans and Romulans are related in some way maybe the Romulans can get Pon Farr as well?

Anyway, Vorik as a Romulan spy could have been an interesting twist in the tale.
 
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