I understand your point clearly, Longinus, but I ask you, what would have been the alternative?
Do you think LGBT characters will feature more prominently?
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I understand your point clearly, Longinus, but I ask you, what would have been the alternative?
To not supersize the ships! nuEnterprise was designed to be 366 metres anyway and the exterior makes perfect sense in that scale. They bumped the scale mid-production. The shuttle would have fitted, there just couldn't have been those extra 'shelves' full of shuttles. The brewery probably wouldn't have fitted, but replacing that with a more sensible engineering would certainly have been a positive thing. It was stupid anyway and completely clashed with the design aesthetic of the rest of the ship.
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Wait a second...I don't remember ever finding out the sizes of Kirk's various Enterprises. There's behind the scenes stuff yes, but no 'canon' or official continuity. There might have been an on-screen blueprint or something, but I never noticed it.
And nope, eyeballing the size doesn't count. I'm not sure about the TOS era, but Berman-era the ships tended to change size in certain shots anyway.
And nope, eyeballing the size doesn't count. I'm not sure about the TOS era, but Berman-era the ships tended to change size in certain shots anyway.
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For the movie Enterprise and Enterprise A you can use the travel pod physical shooting set and the size of the docking ports on the shooting model to obtain a length of about one thousand feet.
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If it doesn't affect the story than count me as someone that doesn't give two shits.
I suspect they are avoiding that largely because it is too easy, too stereotypical, and heads down a path that DC spent decades trying to stomp out, cover over and pee on such that it would never be found again. It's not that they set out to make Vibe a gay character back in the 80's. It's just when you layer enough horrifically bad 80's ethnic, age sex and cultural or class stereotypes on a character you unintentionally end up with something that ressembles Hank Azaria from the Birdcage. This is not a historic happy place for DC.
If it's meaningless to the script, then why "super-size" the ship at all? Hell, avoid the whole thing by having them just beam aboard, they obviously have transporter technology.
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Because, like every other Star Trek, they wanted to show off the Enterprise.
There isn't, onscreen, at all. Everything comes from contradictory books that aren't canon in any way. They could be 6 inches or 5 miles for all we know.
No way they are five miles. No way Scotty could get as fat as he did running all over a ship that big!
That's what ensigns are for.No way they are five miles. No way Scotty could get as fat as he did running all over a ship that big!
Well, counting decks is good way to have a rough estimation of scale. Of course if we do that with Abrams' Enterprise we end up with 300 to 400 metre ship... Then again, one could argue that TOS Enterprise inexplicably had windows only on every second deck as well and was actually 700 metres long (no, not really.) They really should have added some windows when they upscaled the new ship.
Then the Enterprise A clearly wins with 78 full numerically indicated decks complete with the extremely tall vertical turboshaft to show for it.
Assuming only 3.5 meters per deck she's 273 meters high at least, that's pretty damn big.
Quite true. I meant counting the window rows from outside, but that is certainly a valid argument as well.
That must be it!
Curtis, Mr Terrific, is being bumped up to main cast next year, so that does possibly address this issue, but so far, while there's been several gay characters on Flash and Arrow, the gay male characters have been only very minor characters. There's been larger roles for the gay/bi women such as Sara Lance and her lover Nyssa by comparison, a standard practice in sci fi as they seem far more comfortable with attractive gay women to titillate their male viewers while steering clear of prominent representation of gay men.
I find Vibe to be very likable and the character reads pretty easily as gay except for the actual fact that he's supposed to be straight, and he's a prominent main cast character.
I don't want to sound negative, I love Flash and Arrow, and they have been slowly getting better with LGBT diversity and it looks as if it will continue improving. I'm speaking of where we are now though, not what may happen next season.
It was drinking all that illegal Romulan ale, its full of sugar! lolNo way they are five miles. No way Scotty could get as fat as he did running all over a ship that big!
How about this idea: the movies don't have enough time to set up and feature a character who's gay? It may not be focusing on a male demographic that's the problem.
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