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After all if Winona Kirk can get knocked up on the USS Kelvin than non fraternisation is definitely not an issue
Unless Winona was George's civilian wife, and the alternate universe early 23rd century Starfleet already had a policy of having families aboard starships.

Something the prime universe wouldn't have until the 24th century.

 
The universe split happened following the destruction of the Kelvin.

Although I don't think it's unrealistic that civilian family members might be on ships prior to the TNG era, especially if she was actually on board for professional reasons, as a scientist say.
 
If she was working, would they have let her work Pregnant? How pregnant would they let her get before it's time for maternity leave? How far from Earth-Space were they that dropping Winona off at a Star Base was impractical once maternity leave began?

Okay here's an obvious question, was Winona pregnant or even married when the Kelvin left Earth Space?
 
Unless the intent was she would give birth on board, the child would stay with the parents on board. Be raised there

The universe split happened following the destruction of the Kelvin.
Nah, it was already separate.

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The universe split happened following the destruction of the Kelvin.
Well, that certainly was the intention but I don't believe that. Things are already too different. It is an alternate timeline created by that stupid temporal cold war in ST:ENT or something.
 
How so? We know very little about the 2230's.
I'm sure this has already been discussed to death on these forums and it is obvious that there's no consensus. Some people feel it is okay to have huge Kelvin to exist before much smaller prime Connie and some don't. I don't think there will be any new arguments that could be made that would convince anyone. Anyway, not the topic of the thread unless Robau was gay.
 
I'm sure this has already been discussed to death on these forums and it is obvious that there's no consensus. Some people feel it is okay to have huge Kelvin to exist before much smaller prime Connie and some don't. I don't think there will be any new arguments that could be made that would convince anyone. Anyway, not the topic of the thread unless Robau was gay.

You felt the need to comment. So I'm wondering the "why?" behind it? Just because the Kelvin was larger doesn't mean it was more capable or more advanced that the Constitution class that would be created a decade later.
 
You felt the need to comment.
Yes I did and I already regret it as now next ten pages of this thread will be used to beat this dead horse.
So I'm wondering the "why?" behind it? Just because the Kelvin was larger doesn't mean it was more capable or more advanced that the Constitution class that would be created a decade later.
I feels wrong to me. To me it seems implausible that SF would then produce these giant ships and then go back for decades producing much smaller ships which still somehow are more powerful. Can you imagine Kelvin in a TOS episode? (Surely these ships would still be in use by then.) It would look wrong, it doesn't belong to that era. Imagine the original Enterprise next to a huge Kelvin in a same scene. It would feel that Kelvin is much powerful.
 
There was no split , it has to be a different reality/universe since nuBones has brown eyes instead of blue and he was born before Nero showed up. lol
 
The official stance is that the split occured due to the destruction of the Kelvin. That's hardly invalidated by such a trivial point of minutae that can't even really be seen the vast majority of the time.
 
Yes I did and I already regret it as now next ten pages of this thread will be used to beat this dead horse.

Lighten up and learn to go with the flow. Everything is beaten like a dead horse around here. :lol:
 
I feels wrong to me. To me it seems implausible that SF would then produce these giant ships and then go back for decades producing much smaller ships which still somehow are more powerful.

Right, because inventions never start out large then evolve into smaller versions. Oh, wait...

http://media.phillyvoice.com/media/images/02102016_ENIAC_programmers_LA.2e16d0ba.fill-735x490.jpg

http://www.cellphonereviews.com/images/cell-phone-evolution.png

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...d=0ahUKEwio3fOz9O3LAhXJxIMKHU-eBsYQMwgfKAAwAA
 
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That's hardly invalidated by such a trivial point of minutae that can't even really be seen the vast majority of the time.
Just every time McCoy is facing the camera.

If you want to invoke "writer's intent." Roddenberry's bio of Kirk included to he was from Iowa, from Iowa as in Kirk was born and raised there. Kirk was a kid from the American midwest, who got an appointment to the academy, and rose throught the ranks to one day command a starship.

That he was born on a starship near the Klingon border is a creation of Abrams and his team.

 
Just every time McCoy is facing the camera.

Even on bluray, you'd have to be very into Urban to look so directly into his eyes with that kind of concentration.

But I guess it's incredibly easy to distract and offend some people.
 
I hate to continue dragging this thread further off topic, but I was really bothered by where Sam Kirk was, or rather, the lack thereof.
 
A deleted scene, that might be on the bluray. Other than that he wasn't considered important enough to give more screen time.
 
Well, that certainly was the intention but I don't believe that. Things are already too different. It is an alternate timeline created by that stupid temporal cold war in ST:ENT or something.
Or the Romulans arrival sent waves of anti-time out that warped and distorted the proper timeline of events--and since anti-time runs in the opposite direction of normal time then that's why everything in that whole reality is so fucked up.
 
Prime world - 2233 A.D Pregnant Mrs Kirk gives birth to a son named James Tiberius Kirk, Iowa, Earth, millions of miles nowhere near the Klingon border.
JJverse - 2233 A.D Nero arrives and BANG a heavily pregnant Mrs Kirk is magically transported to the USS Kelvin, near the Klingon border where she gives birth prematurely to a baby boy...
Now which writer did not see that huge plot hole opening up?
 
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