This is a great point. I typically have not been at all interested in re-watch of serialized television series.
I loved "Lost," "24" and "DS9"...but absolutely cannot re-watch them.
Do you think CBS All Access might be playing a long game?
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This is a great point. I typically have not been at all interested in re-watch of serialized television series.
I loved "Lost," "24" and "DS9"...but absolutely cannot re-watch them.
They already have one high quality show in good fight and have 3 more shows coming soon.
When people talk al la cart tv channels the expectation is I'll pick the 10 channels I want and pay the same amount for those 10 channels that I pay for those 10 channels now and my bill will be 1/4 to 1/3 of what it is.
The problem is each channel's budget and price is based around having x number of people paying for it. So if people get to choose those 10 channels and now let's say 10% of people choose channel X then chose it before, channel X cannot stay at the price they currently charge so the price for every channel is going to increase.
So in the end, you would wind up with less channels but a bill that isn't signifigantly different then it was before because the cost per channel would not (and could not) stay the same.
I think CBS will order more Star Trek for the 35+ weeks when Discovery isn't on All Access.
^ There is the Nick Meyer project he Khan't talk about.
I wonder if that's why we had the news story of Meyer's Khan series last week. I wonder if in a few years we might have some semblance of a Star Trek channel that harkened back to the 90s with three Trek shows on together. I doubt it will be that over exposed but they do seem to want to use Star Trek as the root for All access success.
I speculated on this elsewhere. I think they might want to do with Star Trek on TV what they're doing with Star Wars in theaters. Have their mainline series but also branch off into different times and places. It's hard to say because we're just at the beginning of Star Trek's TV comeback but that's a direction I could see eventually.
Yeah. If that's the case, I can still be excited for the possibility of a post The Undiscovered Country anthology series that may see the Treaty of Algernon, or the Caradassian wars, or something like that which gives the 24th century more backstory.
Of course they are playing the long game. CBS realizes streaming services are here to stay and might even replace cable one day. They want their share of that pie. The question is will their business plan work? We will have to see.
My bet is that after DSC airs on all access CBS will then release the show on the CBS network sometime before season 2 airs, hoping to get people hooked and advertise lots of, "see season 2 on all access." If the show is good there is no way CBS is going to not try to grab as many advertiser dollars as they can for it.
My bet is that after DSC airs on all access CBS will then release the show on the CBS network sometime before season 2 airs, hoping to get people hooked and advertise lots of, "see season 2 on all access." If the show is good there is no way CBS is going to not try to grab as many advertiser dollars as they can for it.
I'm wondering if that's what they'll do as well, or air at least a few episodes and not the whole season to not piss off current subscribers who are paying mainly to see DSC. But they could do something like it to help get more people in the door.
They haven't with good fight and don't think they will with star trek. If hey did it just tells people to wait and they can watch it on TV which they don't want. They want AA to be the way to watch it (with possible BD release).
I think they said it was releasing on Netflix 24 hours after it airs on CBSAA. I do wonder if it might be less then that though. It should be less then that I think because videos of shows can go up in certain places pretty damn fast after the initial viewing. Granted it might be slower because this is from a streaming service but stuff like Game of Thrones is up within an hour or so I think after it first airs. Those might be because there are screeners out there.
I do wonder if CBS/Netflix will be doing that with Discovery so reviews are out right after new episodes drop.
As mentioned them showing season 1 on broadcast before a season 2 starts would be good. Assuming contracts don't stop that. It would be a good way of building up more interest for the second season. There has to be a constant push from CBS to drive viewership to CBSAA with it extanding and Netflix.
The Good Fight from All Access ended up online lickity split.
No delays.
No delays.
CBS has never been coy about it - they're using Star Trek to put CBS All Access on the map. Just like Star Trek was used to launch UPN. And TNG and DS9 reruns were used to bring new viewers into Spike TV. All of this has happened before, and will happen again...
But I imagine that if the reviews for DSC are good, but the subscriptions for CBSAA don't shoot up, they'll have to work out some sort of streaming deal with Netflix and/or Hulu to stream the seasons after they air, just like they do for regular CBS shows, with the idea of getting people interested in the show and to get them interested in buying a CBSAA subscription to watch the 2nd season, where otherwise they wouldn't have.
But ultimately, and they've said this many times, the goal is for CBSAA to someday be the exclusive streaming home for CBS television. And that kind of feels like the direction all studios are going. Example, Disney just announced that they're yanking their programming off of Netflix and starting their own streaming platform.
But I imagine that if the reviews for DSC are good, but the subscriptions for CBSAA don't shoot up, they'll have to work out some sort of streaming deal with Netflix and/or Hulu to stream the seasons after they air, just like they do for regular CBS shows, with the idea of getting people interested in the show and to get them interested in buying a CBSAA subscription to watch the 2nd season, where otherwise they wouldn't have.
But ultimately, and they've said this many times, the goal is for CBSAA to someday be the exclusive streaming home for CBS television. And that kind of feels like the direction all studios are going. Example, Disney just announced that they're yanking their programming off of Netflix and starting their own streaming platform.
That will only be for countries not USA and Canada. IMO it will never be on netflix USA.
They would shoot themselves in the foot if they did that. People who have netflix and don't really want cbsaa still won't subscribe for season 2 because they will assume it will show up on netflix eventually like season 1 did.
I know so many people want this to go to netflix so they don't have to buy cbsaa but it just isn't happening.
With Disney scuttling their Netflix stuff as well as ESPN, I definitely see CBS playing a long game and trying to get ahead of a potential trend.
but ultimately it doesn't matter what the fans want. CBS have invested A LOT into their streaming platform and they are going to give it the best shot they can. They are not going to cannabalise that by giving Discovery to Netflix inside the US any time soon. Netflix is the most logical choice for a global distribution because of it's reach.
That's how it is.
That's how it is.
CBS All Access started in late 2014, and by February 2017, All Access had nearly 1.5 million subscribers.
All Access is not new, or floundering, and they'll be fine if Discovery is a bust.
All Access is not new, or floundering, and they'll be fine if Discovery is a bust.
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