Do you think Barclay and Troi had sex when they went on a date at the end of "The Nth Degree"?

[Kor]

Why would it be rude not to?

If Troi doesn't want to sleep with Barclay, she is in no way obligated to do so. She may have agreed to go on a friendly date with him, but there's no reason it has to go any further than that. (And Barclay, being the nice guy that he is, would never expect it to.)

However "enlightened" that 24th-century society may be, there will always be boundaries. "No" is always going to mean no.

In a lot of literary science fiction, human or alien societies are so libertine that sexual interaction is about as casual and commonplace as a handshake is to us in the early 21st century.

I think Roddenberry would have wanted Trek to lean in this direction, but he never had a chance to depict it that way.

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

In a lot of literary science fiction, human or alien societies are so libertine that sexual interaction is about as casual and commonplace as a handshake is to us in the early 21st century.

I'm sure they are. But people still have the right to say no.

I think Roddenberry would have wanted Trek to lean in this direction, but he never had a chance to depict it that way.

Good.

 

[Tom]

I think Troi was more promiscuous than was shown in the series. I don't think it would have been that hard to get her into bed. I certainty would have been up for that challenge

 

[NigellaDeanna20]

I'm curious if Troi and Barclay got together sexually after the end of the mentioned episode, when she had that date with him.

Based on her importance for him during Voyager, i believe the answer might be yes...

very much doubt it. Troi's a professional psychologist and as such she would have tried to keep up a professional image and also, one needs to remember that she's also a senior officer whereas Barclay is only a lieutenant so it was probably nothing more than a casual date and nothing at all sexual.

 

[Kor]

Since Troi is basically the staff psychologist for the entire crew, then it seems that medical ethics would preclude a relationship with anybody on board, as they are all her patients.

Kor

 

[tharpdevenport]

Oh -- that's a good one, and so obvious. It never occurred to me.

And here's one that just occurred to me: Despite her undboutedly having talked to any number of male crew members during her years onboard, she somehow manages to date key senior personnel.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

So are we adding Troi to the that list of unethical Star Trek medical personnel?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The real Troi or hologram Troi?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Despite her undboutedly having talked to any number of male crew members during her years onboard, she somehow manages to date key senior personnel.

So?

Deanna's professional ethics are solid. I don't see any reason to dispute that. I honestly don't recall ever seeing her commit a serious ethical violation.

And as we've seen, Starfleet has no regulations against fraternization - crewmembers are free to date, and even marry, whoever they want, regardless of rank, as long as it's consensual for all involved. (Examples would be Picard and Nella Darren in "Lessons", Deanna and Worf in that alternate timeline from "Parallels", Deanna and Riker on the Titan, Picard and Beverly, etc.)

Given this, I see every reason to trust that Deanna would be perfectly capable of keeping her professional and romantic lives separate. Obviously she would never use an active counseling session as an excuse to get someone into bed, but if she happened to 'click' with a fellow crewmember while striking up a conversation in Ten-Forward and they started dating as a result, I don't see any problem with that.

And if, in the subsequent course of her duties, she had to counsel a person she was already in a relationship with? She could make that work as well.

 

[Kor]

Deanna is medical personnel. That field has a different set of ethics than other officers.

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Deanna is medical personnel. That field has a different set of ethics than other officers.

So how do you explain the Titan?

 

[Kor]

So how do you explain the Titan?

Maybe Riker had to officially renounce her as his counselor so that there would be no more "doctor/patient" type of arrangement when they decided to pursue their romance for real. I certainly wouldn't want my spouse to be my therapist!

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Maybe Riker had to officially renounce her as his counselor

Onscreen, there's no evidence that would ever have to occur. And in the novelverse, it definitely did not.

Nor is it a problem for Picard and Beverly to serve together on the Enterprise when they are married.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Well, in the books it's a problem when the plot needs it to be a problem. There was some drama from the admiralty about allowing them to serve together, there was some drama about Will turning to Troi instead of his first officer, etc. I think there was a little bit of drama about Picard and Crusher as well but it's been a while since I've read those books. Policy-wise, it sounded as if married couples serving together as Captain + Senior officer is not common and these were exceptions. I'm sure a brand new captain isn't going to be allowed to appoint his wife as his own first officer or CMO or whatnot, but Picard/Crusher and Troi/Riker already served together for about a billion year and have also saved the Earth/Federation/Alpha Quadrant/galaxy/universe a couple times.

 

[Kor]

Honestly, I always thought Starfleet should be more relaxed about this kind of thing. After all, it's not like Starfleet is the military, right?

Kor

 

[feek61]

Well this has to be one of the creepiest threads I've seen in a bit, lol

 

[Orac]

Absolutely.

 

[Timewalker]

I’d never given it a moments thought before now, but why wouldn’t they? Enlightened 24th century folk, it’d be rude not to.

That's 20th century thinking, that the woman is socially obligated to go to bed with the man (or vice versa). I would expect better of the 24th century.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

That's 20th century thinking, that the woman is socially obligated to go to bed with the man (or vice versa). I would expect better of the 24th century.

That's my opinion, too. The only difference is that i think she may have wanted to have sex with him.

And about the ethics of being his counselor. Worf, Riker and everyone else on the ship she may have a romantic or sexual interest in, are all technically her patients. And she acted on her desires when she hooked up with Worf.

 

[My Name Was Taken Twice]

Nor is it a problem for Picard and Beverly to serve together on the Enterprise when they are married.

What. When did that happen?