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Poll Do You Still Stand With...?

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Squiggy

FrozenToad
Admiral
Curious to see if public opinion has moved in any direction over the past couple of weeks.

I'm also curious as to why we've all been so civil over this. I was expecting many ragequits and flameouts over this debacle.
 
CBS is right and Axanar is wrong. That's reality.

But personally, I don't really care about the outcome one way or the other. So I voted for the last option.

Kor
 
Originally I had no dog in the fight, I was not paying much attention to Axanar prior to this and my general thoughts on the matter could be summed up with: "CBS naturally has every right to uphold their copyright, but if some fans wanna make a film what's the big deal... "

When I read a bit more about it, it nudged me to the CBS camp, and essentially every word and action that came out of Axanar camp since has entrenched my support for #teamCBS.
 
On the surface one might say that I don't have a dog in the fight and never had. I'm a casual follower of fandom and only poke my head in to check out fan films when they generate enough of a buzz to draw my eye. The thing is, though, I'm a creative person. As a creative person I need to support intellectual property rights because those don't just benefit the massive ultra-wealthy corporations, but also the individual creators who are just barely getting by. That's why I've supported CBS's actions from the beginning and why I continue to support them.
 
No dog in this fight but I wouldn't be sad if the lawsuit, directly or indirectly, carved out fair use protections for fan films. Not that I think that will happen though stranger things have been known to happen in civil suits. :)
 
It's sad that it's come to this, but it was predictable. All the other Trek fan films seem to understand where the lines are and are careful not to get too close to stepping on them. Whether or not by some odd roll of the dice AP wins this case, I'm afraid it might be the end of fan films. Period.
 
I've been on TeamCBS since this started, and I don't see that changing. Axanar's people just keep digging themselves a deeper and deeper grace.
 
Still have no dog in this fight, for the very simple reason;

I don't give a f***. I see people debating this as if the future of Star Trek depends on it. Guys, it's a friggin fanfilm, which will probably never see the light of day now. And of it did, the percentage of Trek fans actually watching it will a lot lower then some people actually think. The only people who think that fanfilms actually have any kind of influence on Star Trek's future, are those making it.

Now, I'm not trying to bash the efforts of some of the creators of fanfilms. There's some high quality stuff out there, and the people behind it are clearly very passionate about what they're making. But in the end, they're really just fanfilms.
 
And Star Trek, lest we forget, is just a bit of popular entertainment.l

True story.

Fans get so caught up in STAR TREK being this great bastion of television. So much so that they elevate it so much that they forget that Trek is popular entertainment.
 
I suppose I'm with the Axanar camp--I would generally be hands off when it comes to fan production--let people see what they want to.

I'd love for trek to be in the public domain at some point. I don't think it--or me--will see out 75th.
 
I suppose I'm with the Axanar camp--I would generally be hands off when it comes to fan production--let people see what they want to.

But CBS was hands off until Peters turned Axanar into his personal piggy bank. Raising $1.2 million dollars for three minutes of footage. Then selling merchandise without licensing from CBS.

Stealing is wrong. I don't see how anyone can see it any other way?
 
I'm very anti Axanar who I will hold entirely responsible if it fouls things up for the other fanfilms.
 
Axanar staff are trying to pull a Tardis on the clear CBS make no money boundary. No way can CBS allow a for profit professional studio built with CBS-IP-derived funds and creating story lines in the official Trek universe and selling products without licensing to operate under the Trek tent. How could any storytelling media company allow this?
 
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