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Do you often wish that you were living in Star Trek now?

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Getting to experience the sex of your wildest dreams, revenge fantasies, relive the past-- the holodeck alone is worth it.

theoretcal benefits?

Taking an injection that will give you no emotional reaction to any past trama, - maybe that's why humans don't believe in the death penalty in the 24th century.

Injections that will instantly cure depression, make short people grow taller, overweight people a lot slimmer, deaf people a chance to hear, blind people sight.

It's looking better all the time.
 
I don't know if this is just me, but modern life seems to be kind of boring. In Star Trek everything is much more interesting and there are lot of things going on over there than here.

Well, see that's the whole thing. The Star Trek series are all about the people who lead the most interesting and adventurous lives in their times, just like shows like "24" are about the people who lead the most interesting and adventurous lives in our times. There aren't any Star Trek series about the everyday average people of earth in the twenty-third and fourth centuries: the food processing maintenance workers, the Starfleet Command temp clerks, the moon shuttle conductors.
 
^^...oh! baby!..."Moon Shuttle Conductors"...now that is a show that is writing itself right in my head...a Story of intrigue and hijinks...half-heard conversations and full-fledged scandal...watch! as our Conductors do their jobs -on the surface - (no pun intended) but really do the job behind the scenes...starring Mark Wahlberg and Colm Meany...who else?... ;)
 
I wouldn't mind living in the Trek Universe. I sometimes imagine being on a trek ship and being cured of my Epilepsy and Learning Disability. Longer life always helps. Though I am a Trek geek, I'm to old to ever have worn one of those uniforms. I wonder if Trek has a version of Facebook? :p
 
It would be cool just to be able to travel through space and see different planets. And as said above the Holodeck would be worth it. Finally I could go to Disneyworld and it be empty except for me and Seven of 9. :-)
 
No poverty, no crime, working at something you enjoy to better yourself and benefit others. Yeah, a living in a post-scarcity utopia like 24th century earth sounds pretty good to me!

just ruminating on something posted a while back in this thread:

OTOH, life on earth as portrayed by TNG seemed very conformist and bland.
There does seem to be a general lack of diversity, maybe they "evolved" beyond the need for that particular form of freedom. The ability make your own choices, to control your own life, your own destiny.

I imagine in their society there's a lot more freedom to control your life than we have today. No-one's held back by their background, everyone has the same opportunities. If people look samey I put that down to just the limited sample we're getting.
 
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Only if I get dibs on the center seat. All tho, being a transporter chief would be interesting, for me at least. Beaming them backwards would be a blast, (shades of Space Balls),or moving heads around, removing feet. I could do this all day.:vulcan:
 
Probably. But I imagine 24th century earth society is still far closer to equality of opportunity than our own.
 
^ Then why did Dr. Bashir's parents feel the need to have their son altered?

Maybe smart people are a little more equal than others in the future?

:)
 
No gays on display, but plenty of heteros, at a certain point it ceases to be a co-incidence.

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What's wrong with it? By the way, in DS9 such relations were shown between Jadzia and Dax's ex-wife.

What do you mean what's wrong with it??? Because Star Trek touted itself as a show about a supposedly diverse, IDIC filled future that has evolved past racism, sexism, everyism, and yet they deliberately chose not to include gays. 700+ episodes where a reference to people being coupled in some way occurs in most of them, even if it's only "his wife" as part of the conversation and yet we can all name the one or two times an actual non-hetero relationship was referenced. And the two times that come up were aliens where you can just say "well that's what they do". I'm referring to the Trill story you mention and the co-husband reference to a murdered Bolian. THAT'S IT. The default norm of Star Trek is heterosexual, but it's not just the norm it's the ONLY. It's not like okay every ten episodes there is a pronoun used that indicates a non-hetero relationship, it's ALL episodes. All 700+. This is a huge and ridiculous gap in our brave new world of the future.

That's what fanfic is for. ;) There's a myriad of stories with K/S, Sulu/Chekov, Spock/Sulu, Garak/Bashir, Janeway/Seven, and other combinations as well. In the Valjiir stories many of the characters, both male and female, are bisexual and those who aren't, don't irrationally judge those who are (well, mostly).
Don't get me wrong, but on what basis people write such stories? Why it's necessary or funny to imagine sexual relations between Kirk and Spock, for example? Why is true friendship less valuable than gay-sex? Is it really our future, if we need it in Star Trek (in 24th century)?
People write all kinds of fanfic. If you're going to ask why people write slash are you also asking why people write stories where Deanna and Picard are a couple? Because it's the same thing, people like the idea of a friendship advancing to a relationship or sexual liaison and they write it.
 
^ Then why did Dr. Bashir's parents feel the need to have their son altered?

Maybe smart people are a little more equal than others in the future?

Parents will always want the best for their kids. Or maybe they were just embarrassed. There's still going to be prestige in an elite profession (and pride in one's offspring achieving that).

I guess learning difficulties will still hold people back, if the federation hasn't come up with a cure (or rather, a legal cure). But my wider point still holds, really. Race, poverty, social inequality etc are not going to hold people back the way they do today.
 
Probably. But I imagine 24th century earth society is still far closer to equality of opportunity than our own.
There cannot be equality of opportunity. Opportunities will always be depending on ability. You can't run if you have no legs. You either need replacements or you don't run.

Earth society would be more accepting, tolerant and supportive, but that's it. You wouldn't be bullied for being different, that's the important thing. But you would still be different and not able to do things the way other people do, that's just a fact that will not change.

Women can't pee standing up. Okay, they can, but it's a mess. That is just a fact that will never change. Does that mean they should get lower wages and get no right to vote? The fuck no. But it will never make sense to install urinals in women bathrooms.

Blind can't drive cars, or paint. Deaf-mute will have a hard time to be stand-up comedians for a non deaf-mute audience. Etc... In these cases it's not society's fault that they cannot pursue these opportunities. What is society's fault is if they are bullied, ridiculed, ignored.
 
That's why I said *closer to*.

If opportunities depend just on ability in the 24th century, that's great. Here today they also depend on where you were born, how rich your parents are, whether or not you're in some disadvantaged minority group etc.
 
Nog got into Starfleet Academy because he was friends with Sisko's son and knew Sisko personally.

Kirk recieved help entering the Academy from a Starfleet Officer too ... perhaps a old friend of his father's?

The impression I got was that Saavik had Spock's endorsement, and Wesley had Picard's.

The doorway to success was opened by someone they knew. Even in the future it's helpful to have at least semi-powerful friends.

:)
 
Networking still counts for something, yeah. I think my general point still stands, even if I could have phrased it better originally.

(also wesley could have still had a comfortable life and fulfilling job without the Picard connection. That just got him a line into a very prestigous and elite career. And Picard wouldn't have vouched for him if he hadn't deserved it. Nog and Vulcans aren't relevant, I'm only talking about people from Earth).
 
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