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Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal canon?

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Like any other series it is canon with conflict. Warp 34 anyone?
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

There's never really been enough interest in TAS to justify a separate forum, but discussion of the Animated Series is welcomed in the regular TOS forum. :)

Just a suggestion that anyone interested in this thread might also want to vote in my poll for the creation of a board for Star Trek: The Animated Series. You can vote by going to the thread at the link below:

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=120142

Since I posted my suggestion for a board to be created for Star Trek: The Animated Series & started a poll on it creations this has spawned this new thread about the canon in regards to Star Trek: The Animated Series. This thread so far has 380 views so far & 41 posts (mine makes 42). That seems to me like there is a bit is interest in Star Trek: The Animated Series.

Do consider that there may be reasons that the level of interest is a bit low on the creation of a board for Star Trek: The Animated Series. It was only on TV from September 1973 - November 1974 (a lot of people including Star Trek fans weren't ever aware of its existence at the time, or when it was released on VHS). It has only been widely available since November 21, 2006 when it was released on DVD (the VHS release in 1989 for the US & UK release in 1992 wasn't really readily available & took a bit of effort to find it for anyone who was interested in it at the time). Many people still haven't seen it & even now might not know that it even exists.

By not having its own forum people who don't know about it will not find out about it by visiting this site since they would have to stumble across randomly scattered threads that they might never see. Also people looking for details to help them decide it if is worth watching, or purchasing will not have much find much information since it doesn't have its own board.

I am just making the case for this board since I feel that it benefits all Star Trek fans & people who view this site. The creation of a board for Star Trek: The Animated Series can on benefit Star Trek as a whole by exposing more people to a new area of the Star Trek universe that they may know little or nothing about (I see not have a board for it as a disservice to all Star Trek fans & viewers of this site).
 
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Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I have an odd way of looking at TAS. I see the TAS episodes as something of a stylized storyboard for the live-action events. And the Alan Dean Foster adaptations are closer to what really happened. :D

Nothing wrong with that, some of those extended versions were better anyway. And, as I was reading them, I pictured the crew in my head as they appeared in TOS, not TAS.

So they had . . . facial expressions. Good, good.
 
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I don't like the thought of April being the first CO of Enterprise. On the same token, I haven't seen ANY of TAS.

Why not? I like the idea that the Enterprise had a lengthy history, even before Pike took command.

This. One of the neat things about DS9 was that the station had a history (and even when they introduced the new Defiant, it had the "built to fight the Borg" backstory, so it didn't feel completely out of the blue).

TNG, VOY and ENT all had that "we've got a new ship, let's see what she can do" feel, and it's nice to have something different.

Indeed. I accepted the "new ship" thing for TNG, since they were trying to make it different that TOS, but for Voyager and Enterprise it was a tiresome cliche.

Hell, Voyager might have been better off if they made it a ship with history. You could have an established crew who knew each other flung to the Delta Quadrant. That could even have added a dimension to the Maquis, it wouldn't just be Stafleet and Maquis learning to get along, it would also be a seperate group trying to integrate among Voyager's already tightly-knit group.

And the circumstances could have been even more dire of Voyager were just a run-of-the-mill starship with nothing impressive about it as opposed to the brand-new state-of-the-art ship with all the bells and whistles of Starfleet's future.

But I think we've wandered a bit off-topic.
 
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I do. And I also include the Shatner novels and the single D.C. Fontana novel.
 
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I did until I watched it. It's a real mess, with about 4-5 really good episodes. Those 4-5 I include in my own personal canon. The rest are Captain Kirk's hallucinations.

Hmmm... smells like it's like another alternate universe to me.

In other words it should be called...

Star Trek: The Alternate Universe Animated Series.
 
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I consider TAS to be canon but under the premise that the events in the storylines happened and that we the viewers were only shown a simplified, kiddiefied version of the events.
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I consider TAS to be canon but under the premise that the events in the storylines happened and that we the viewers were only shown a simplified, kiddiefied version of the events.

So, basically like the rest of Star Trek? ;)
 
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Did TAS "happen" in the Star Trek universe?

Let's ask Nero...

"It did happen! I watched it happen! Don't tell me it didn't happen!!"

:rommie:
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I consider TAS to be canon but under the premise that the events in the storylines happened and that we the viewers were only shown a simplified, kiddiefied version of the events.

So, basically like the rest of Star Trek? ;)

Actually yes, one can only take what's shown with a grain of salt. For instance, there's no sound in space yet we constantly hear neato sound fx during space battles. Did it happen? No of course not, you just accept it and enjoy the story. Same thing with TAS.
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I consider TAS to be canon but under the premise that the events in the storylines happened and that we the viewers were only shown a simplified, kiddiefied version of the events.

So, basically like the rest of Star Trek? ;)

Okay, now that is funny!

TAS in some ways is less immature than the live. No fistfights or makin' out, both of which featured prominently in the live eps, and both of which are prominent in . . . high school.
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I'm willing to consider it canon, although I do need to actually finish watching all of it.
 
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Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal canon?

My personal canon is the same as Viacom/Paramount/CBS's, since they actually decide what is canon.
Personally, if I could remember any of The Animated Series, it would be in my personal canon. Way back in the olden days, it was the only Star Trek on television and I enjoyed it.
 
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Did TAS "happen" in the Star Trek universe?

Let's ask Nero...

"It did happen! I watched it happen! Don't tell me it didn't happen!!"

:rommie:
:lol:

Let's ask Picard.

'Who's to say this universe is any less proper than the other?'

And Benny Russell:

'It's REEAAAAAL! I created it!'
 
Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

'It's REEAAAAAL! I created it!'

Certainly it's real, since it affects me, and nothing unreal exists. BUT do I include it in my imaginative alternate future history?

I am trying to decide whether to exclude things or adopt people's explanations for discrepancies. HEY - maybe it all happenS but the discrepancies are due to indeterminacy/uncertainty. Then no explanations are needed. That might be easiest.
 
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I think people -- and by "people" I am referring to the more passionate fan-base here-- get too hung up on definitions of words and concepts, too obsessive about what is or isn't canon, what did or didn't happen, and what should be included or not, and also that people here --that passionate fanbase again-- are just sadly riddled with a need to control what other people think, which is why this argument keeps coming up.

For myself, I generally go with the logic "if it's on screen, it's canon." I'm enough of a an adult and have an abundance of creative thought to be able to justify or ignore continuity glitches, and even if I couldn't, beyond asking about it here, I don't know that it's worth the energy or grief involved to try to defend or explain it away.

Life's too short for bullshit. Enjoy the show, that's really all there is to it for me.
 
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