Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal canon?

[C.E. Evans]

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I'm not really a fan of TAS, but I always liked the idea that Robert April was the first captain of the Enterprise.

 

[Lor'Vela]

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Hit and miss for me. Whether you consider the series canon or not, there are some aspects that I find myself hoping are not canon, and vice versa. For example, I like everything about Yesteryear, and Captain April being the first Captain of the Enterprise, but cringe when I see things like giant Spock, or travelling to the centre of the galaxy and into another dimension. On the whole though, I would like to consider the series canon.

Oh... And I can't stand Arex. He had very poor dialogue or none at all. Must he always "sir" his way through every sentence? I liked M'Ress though, and I hope that any future Trek will feature a member of her species.

 

[vess]

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I'm not really a fan of TAS, but I always liked the idea that Robert April was the first captain of the Enterprise.

I don't like the thought of April being the first CO of Enterprise. On the same token, I haven't seen ANY of TAS.

 

[The Wormhole]

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I don't like the thought of April being the first CO of Enterprise. On the same token, I haven't seen ANY of TAS.

Why not? I like the idea that the Enterprise had a lengthy history, even before Pike took command.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

I'm not really a fan of TAS, but I always liked the idea that Robert April was the first captain of the Enterprise.

I don't like the thought of April being the first CO of Enterprise. On the same token, I haven't seen ANY of TAS.

Why not? I like the idea that the Enterprise had a lengthy history, even before Pike took command.

Same here.

 

[milo bloom]

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Just in case anyone missed it:
The scene in last year's Star Trek reboot where young Spock is bullied by his classmates? A reworking of a scene from "Yesteryear", only this time Spock beat the shit out of his chief tormentor at the end.

I had an "OMG TAS!" moment at the cinema.

I may have possibly "squeed" out loud in the theater at that bit.

I don't like the thought of April being the first CO of Enterprise. On the same token, I haven't seen ANY of TAS.

Why not? I like the idea that the Enterprise had a lengthy history, even before Pike took command.

This. One of the neat things about DS9 was that the station had a history (and even when they introduced the new Defiant, it had the "built to fight the Borg" backstory, so it didn't feel completely out of the blue).

TNG, VOY and ENT all had that "we've got a new ship, let's see what she can do" feel, and it's nice to have something different.

 

[Luther Sloan]

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Uh, folks. It's not open to opinion, anymore. TAS is now canon. It is confirmed that is canon at StarTrek.com

Here is a quote taken from Star Trek's official site...

So the question remains, is Star Trek: The Animated Series (or Animated Adventures) canon, or not? We would like to think so, if only so we can make more work for ourselves and all future historians! At some point, we would like to start adding more information to our site gleaned from this show and have it form part of the overall collective consciousness of Star Trek. Or, do we simply leave the whole issue ambiguous and let the fans decide in their own mind what they consider canon? Put to a recent vote on the site, fans favored the canonization of the animated series by a margin of more than 2-1.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/editorials/article/17178.html

See, the studio actually said that they prefer to think TAS is canon. Which essentially means it is canon because they would like to think that it is.

And StarTrek.com (as you know) is owned by CBS Studios...

http://whois.domaintools.com/startrek.com

Trust me, I would prefer not having the Animated Series considered as canon. It is after all a 1970's cartoon we are talking about. But the studio says it likes to think TAS is canon. Then it is canon. No if's ands or buts. It is spelled out and confirmed right on their very site.

 

[Agenda]

Re: Do you include Star Trek: The Animated Series in your personal can

Uh, folks. It's not open to opinion, anymore. TAS is now canon. It is confirmed that is canon at StarTrek.com

Here is a quote taken from Star Trek's official site...

So the question remains, is Star Trek: The Animated Series (or Animated Adventures) canon, or not? We would like to think so, if only so we can make more work for ourselves and all future historians! At some point, we would like to start adding more information to our site gleaned from this show and have it form part of the overall collective consciousness of Star Trek. Or, do we simply leave the whole issue ambiguous and let the fans decide in their own mind what they consider canon? Put to a recent vote on the site, fans favored the canonization of the animated series by a margin of more than 2-1.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/editorials/article/17178.html

See, the studio actually said that they prefer to think TAS is canon. Which essentially means it is canon because they would like to think that it is.

And StarTrek.com (as you know) is owned by CBS Studios...

http://whois.domaintools.com/startrek.com

Trust me, I would prefer not having the Animated Series considered as canon. It is after all a 1970's cartoon we are talking about. But the studio says it likes to think TAS is canon. Then it is canon. No if's ands or buts. It is spelled out and confirmed right on their very site.

It's because they want to sell more DVDs. Sucks.

 

[thew40]

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I did until I watched it. It's a real mess, with about 4-5 really good episodes. Those 4-5 I include in my own personal canon. The rest are Captain Kirk's hallucinations.

 

[milo bloom]

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Something else I seem to remember, regarding the whole idea of canon with regards to a series like TAS or even the novels, was the idea that it's not the studio outright saying "it didn't happen", but more along the lines of "if future writers don't want to acknowledge it, then they don't have to". For example, if a future Trek writer wanted to ignore an episode of TAS to write a new story for a live action series or movie, then under that old rule they could so. But if they wanted to followup on something, then they could (like the circular Vulcan city from Yesteryear showing up in TOSR and ENT).

Anybody else remember this from years past or is it something I put together in my head on my own?

 

[RandyS]

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Yes.

 

[plynch]

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I have no personal canon.

I often enjoy a TAS before bed, because they're short. The opening music is SO bad it's good. Trek beguine on the cheap with studio combo instead of orchestra.

The stories rarely if ever have fights or Kirk make out scenes, so in that regard they're better than Star Trek, my first love. (I have stopped calling it TOS.)

EDIT: NO no no, not a beguine. More like a broadway style fast two-beat. Just watched a TAS and realized my memory error from earlier today.

 

[trekkiebaggio]

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^Love the av.

I don't really care about canon, I enjoy TAS as much as any other Trek whether it's canon or not.

 

[Warped9]

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I have an odd way of looking at TAS. I see the TAS episodes as something of a stylized storyboard for the live-action events. And the Alan Dean Foster adaptations are closer to what really happened.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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I could be wrong, but I think TAS opened the door for other cartoon adaptations/spin offs of Prime Time shows.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

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for a little while as a kid I thought it was the original, and was impressed that they'd managed to find actors for the live action version who looked so like the characters in the cartoons... :-)

Cute.

 

[Kail]

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I do. Gene was exec, Dorothy produced, same writers, same actors, it's a no brainer.

 

[RandyS]

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I have an odd way of looking at TAS. I see the TAS episodes as something of a stylized storyboard for the live-action events. And the Alan Dean Foster adaptations are closer to what really happened.

Nothing wrong with that, some of those extended versions were better anyway. And, as I was reading them, I pictured the crew in my head as they appeared in TOS, not TAS.

 

[Nerys Myk]

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As a kid I drew my own comics and when I did a Star Trek story the characters looked like the TAS versions.

 

[Kelso]

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I accept the Star Trek universe as presented in whatever story I'm watching/reading at the moment.

So TAS is the definitive Trek... if I'm watching a TAS episode.