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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
I honestly think that whatever you do in your head to reconcile everything is fine, even if it's not consistent with one another or with the viewpoint of the creators of the show. It's much preferable to taking the approach that everything sucks and digging your heels in simply because you can't reconcile things visually
 
Well, I don't either because I consider DSC a reboot. :)
And everyone's happy :D

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I honestly think that whatever you do in your head to reconcile everything is fine, even if it's not consistent with one another or with the viewpoint of the creators of the show. It's much preferable to taking the approach that everything sucks and digging your heels in simply because you can't reconcile things visually

You mean, everything doesn't suck? The Internet has been wrong this whole time!?! :wtf:
 
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Yeah, that's fair enough. Honestly, I wish they'd have gone that route.


Well, my personal opinion on that stuff is that I can gloss over minor continuity problems and ignore one line of dialogue, but if the Temporal Cold War and its splintering of timelines works for you, fair enough. :bolian:

Anything for you, Jinn! :techman::whistle:
JB
 
I find it interesting how people jump to "They didn't do their homework!" as opposed to "They did their homework, are aware of the discontinuity but chose to do something different."

If you ignore continuity you risk the ire of the fans and rightly so!
JB
 
If you ignore continuity you risk the ire of the fans and rightly so!
JB
And that's fine. While I don't agree with it (I'm of the if you stop enjoying something just stop watching it and let it go, don't post for months railing against it, start petitions, harass the people involved, etc camp) I at least find "they ignored Canon" to be a more rational argument than "they weren't aware of Canon." As if to say "If only they knew all of the minutiae of Star Trek, they would have made different storytelling choices." Considering he used to write for the show, I am reasonably certain Bryan Fuller was aware of Star Trek history when he wrote the script that included holograms, Klingon cloaking devices and redesigned Klingons. He just chose to go a different way for the story he wanted to tell.
 
If you ignore continuity you risk the ire of the fans and rightly so!
JB
if by fans you mean diehard TOS-or-Bust types, no, you dont risk anything by offending them. They are so insignificant compared to the audience they want to obtain that they are almost inconsequential. Even at that they've made overtures, but there's no reason to break their backs for those kinds of fans. 20th century was nice. I liked it too.
 
Perhaps what we liked? Crazy, I know.
20th century was nice. I liked it too.[/QUOTE]
21st century is pretty decent so far too ;)
But if you go by Trek decades timeline, TOS/TNG/DS9/Voyager all aired almost exclusively in 20th Century. ENT and STD are 21st century Trek. Maybe not large enough sample size yet, but I am seeing a trend there :)
 
Takes me back to a joke I cracked once. Someone on here 15 years ago said, "I like 21st Century Star Trek!" Presumably he meant everything from TNG on, but I decided to take it literally and sarcastically replied, "So Enterprise, the tail-end of Voyager, and Nemesis... " :devil:

I think 21st Century Star Trek took a little while to bloom.
 
Maybe he did and that's fine! but why not set it in the future, beyond TNG and we would have nothing to complain about time wise!
JB

It was so obvious I'm still wondering why they went back to TOS and Kelvin and thought, yea.. This is prime universe material here.. pfft!

Could have had that nice Enterprise J to enjoy..
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The Nacelles look soo skinny and tiny, but then compare them to the other scales of ships, and those nacelles are massive! Also, think about how amazing Warp is in the 26th Century, heck thats close to the time travel era, so maybe they have temporal warp drives or something.. would have been nice to explore anyway, with Archer's descendant as the Captain.
 
What's the purpose for all that space? Looks more like a mobile space colony asking to be destroyed in an enemy attack. Basically, what's wrong with the Enterprise-D but multiplied.
 
The Ent-J's saucer is so wide and flat that the windows on top of the saucer must just be massive skylights above each room rather than traditional windows mounted in the walls that you look out of.

Of course, if you really want to get freaky with it, the gravity plating and floors in that part of the saucer could be aligned facing aft toward the nacelles like a big round skyscraper tilted on its side, and those actually are like conventional windows rather than skylights.
 
The Ent-J's saucer is so wide and flat that the windows on top of the saucer must just be massive skylights above each room rather than traditional windows mounted in the walls that you look out of.

Of course, if you really want to get freaky with it, the gravity plating and floors in that part of the saucer could be aligned facing aft toward the nacelles like a big round skyscraper tilted on its side, and those actually are like conventional windows rather than skylights.

The original Enterprise had a refit. The Enterprise-J would have The Big Dig.

The civilian population would need its own elected Mayor.
 
The Enterprise-J comes from a future battle which was deleted by the end of "Zero Hour", which destroyed the Sphere network 400 years early.

If there ever is an Enterprise-J, it could take any form (not that they wouldn't totally change it anyway!:rommie:)
 
The Ent-J's saucer is so wide and flat that the windows on top of the saucer must just be massive skylights above each room rather than traditional windows mounted in the walls that you look out of.

Of course, if you really want to get freaky with it, the gravity plating and floors in that part of the saucer could be aligned facing aft toward the nacelles like a big round skyscraper tilted on its side, and those actually are like conventional windows rather than skylights.

Or the grav plating is handled entirely different and perpendicular to baseline and these windows open up to small town sized vistas. OR those are bay-doors for attack starships J hauled over from a Fed colony over in M31. All we got to see was a window, some dark low pile carpet, and an NX01 hatch painted darker.

If they ever did J (And I hope they don't) it would make a chance to really try new ideas that had never been attemped before. If they went that far in the future to have it same-old it would mean technology had ground to a standstill.
 
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