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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
His name it's self is a bit of an ethnic jumble.

Didn't McGivers suggest that Khan might be a Sikh?

It would explain his name (all Sikh males, regardless of ethnicity, are called Singh) but Khan is obviously not religious, so that's where it all sort of falls down.
 
What did folks do when STWOK came along, when the Klingons changed, the uniforms changed and Kirk went back to being an Admiral behind a desk? Shit their knickers?

Yes and again when a Star Trek tv series cane out without Kirk and Spock and a Klingon in starflwer.
 
Didn't McGivers suggest that Khan might be a Sikh?

Which shows she might be competent historian, but her knowledge of religion is spotty. Singh might suggest a Sikh (as in a Sikh would be called Singh, but Singh isn't always a Sikh name. However, any devout Sikh would wear some form of turban, particularly to formal gatherings.

IMO, Hindu would be more likely, even if we accept his geographical origin identification. Which given that he was played by a Mexican (?) is dubious at best.
 
Didn't McGivers suggest that Khan might be a Sikh?

It would explain his name (all Sikh males, regardless of ethnicity, are called Singh) but Khan is obviously not religious, so that's where it all sort of falls down.

It wasn't just a suggestion. She sounded pretty sure of it and the episode seemed to imply that he was indeed a Sikh from India.
 
Didn't McGivers suggest that Khan might be a Sikh?

It would explain his name (all Sikh males, regardless of ethnicity, are called Singh) but Khan is obviously not religious, so that's where it all sort of falls down.
I'm sure that's what the writers were going for with Singh. Khan has it's origins in Central Asia and is common among Muslims. but not used as a first name. Noonien, is more mysterious, I've seen it attributed to Chinese, Indian and Korean origins.
 
The actor was a White Mexican, so the new Kahn being played by a White Brit continues a franchise Trek tradition.

But at least Kahn looked the part, even if his ethnic origin wasn't the same as the one of the character. For instance, most Italians would be much more credible playing an Arab than most Norwegians. I say most because there are always exceptions; like a Norwegian with Arab parents for example, though I am told that those are excessively rare. But if you see an Italian in the role of an Arab on screen, you won't say to yourself: "That guy is not an Arab, he's an Italian" unless you know him personally of course.
 
Prime Kahn ethnic origin never reflected his name

Yup.
Though in some respects Cumberbatch is closer to it than Montalban was. Khan as the product of white supremacy types, hiding out in India/Pakistan at the end of the Raj and toiling in their milkshake labs leads more sensibly to him than it does Montalban. Somewhere in the mountains of Kashmir perhaps. Goodness knows his accent was closer to something I might not be surprised to hear from a person who was born and grew up in India. (This is partly tongue in cheek...though the first bit has a nice Metal Gear Solid side to it. Or Twins with Danny Devito.)
 
But at least Kahn looked the part, even if his ethnic origin wasn't the same as the one of the character. For instance, most Italians would be much more credible playing an Arab than most Norwegians. I say most because there are always exceptions; like a Norwegian with Arab parents for example, though I am told that those are excessively rare. But if you see an Italian in the role of an Arab on screen, you won't say to yourself: "That guy is not an Arab, he's an Italian" unless you know him personally of course.
But at least Kahn looked the part, even if his ethnic origin wasn't the same as the one of the character. For instance, most Italians would be much more credible playing an Arab than most Norwegians. I say most because there are always exceptions; like a Norwegian with Arab parents for example, though I am told that those are excessively rare. But if you see an Italian in the role of an Arab on screen, you won't say to yourself: "That guy is not an Arab, he's an Italian" unless you know him personally of course.
Kind of comes close to "All brown people look alike".
 
But at least Kahn looked the part, even if his ethnic origin wasn't the same as the one of the character. For instance, most Italians would be much more credible playing an Arab than most Norwegians. I say most because there are always exceptions; like a Norwegian with Arab parents for example, though I am told that those are excessively rare. But if you see an Italian in the role of an Arab on screen, you won't say to yourself: "That guy is not an Arab, he's an Italian" unless you know him personally of course.

Not everyone finds Mediterranean actors Moreish. ;) (Gene probably did.)
 
Which shows she might be competent historian, but her knowledge of religion is spotty. Singh might suggest a Sikh (as in a Sikh would be called Singh, but Singh isn't always a Sikh name. However, any devout Sikh would wear some form of turban, particularly to formal gatherings.

IMO, Hindu would be more likely, even if we accept his geographical origin identification. Which given that he was played by a Mexican (?) is dubious at best.

I think Khan was Certainly I tended as Sikh. Turban, Long hair, and I half remember him wearing a bracelet. Plus there’s the whole ‘warrior’ reputation. The clothing of his buddies suggests that if he is Muslim, he’s not particularly strict on some of the rules.
 
If that's the case I've seen bulls in china shops with more stealth. :lol:
Is that a Ferdinand reference? I just saw that movie with the mini-ITDUDEs. Or is Ferdinand a reference to some other bull in a China shop saying I am not aware off?
 
I think Khan was Certainly I tended as Sikh. Turban, Long hair, and I half remember him wearing a bracelet. Plus there’s the whole ‘warrior’ reputation. The clothing of his buddies suggests that if he is Muslim, he’s not particularly strict on some of the rules.
We never saw him in a turban in Space Seed other than in McGiver's painting. Don't recall any bracelets on him.
 
The actor was a White Mexican, so the new Kahn being played by a White Brit continues a franchise Trek tradition.

True story, I thought Malcolm Reed was played by an American, so thoroughly Hollywood mid-Atlantic was his accent. To this day, I find it hard to shake the feeling that Troi was the only Brit playing a Brit in the history of Trek, and even that’s largely down to the novels expanding Ian Troi’s backstory....at least until good old Bashir came along, but he probably confuses the heck out of people more used to the Dulux Colour chart method of identifying peoples backgrounds. O’Brien is a tough call...especially as Ireland is unified in the Trek universe. But I could go with generically ‘British’ in the Isles sense, and him and Jules had proper pint glasses that we don’t have here anymore. Of course, they were still total stereotypes. Darts, beer, Battle of Britain and Tennis. If only they had crossed over more with TOS, we could have got Jimmy Doohan and them walking into Quarks, and much hilarity would have ensued.
 
We never saw him in a turban in Space Seed other than in McGiver's painting. Don't recall any bracelets on him.

He also wears it in wrath of Khan I think (the Turban that is.) The bracelet is a potentially false memory, though he does get the communicator one of Reliant.
 
Is that a Ferdinand reference? I just saw that movie with the mini-ITDUDEs. Or is Ferdinand a reference to some other bull in a China shop saying I am not aware off?
Bull in a china shop is a common idiom which Webster's defines as "a person who breaks things or who often makes mistakes or causes damage in situations that require careful thinking or behavior".
 
Is that a Ferdinand reference? I just saw that movie with the mini-ITDUDEs. Or is Ferdinand a reference to some other bull in a China shop saying I am not aware off?

The second. It refers to someone exceedingly overexcited, damaging everything around them in their overeagerness, whilst being likely mistaken in their reasoning. Or just plain clumsy and unstealthy.
 
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