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Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?

Is STD a Reboot?

  • Yes

    Votes: 115 39.9%

  • No

    Votes: 173 60.1%
  • Total voters
    288
KennyB said:
I have know idea WTF you are talking about.
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Maybe canon isn't the right term. I am thinking of Trek as a shared universe. I have a hard time seeing how this show and "TOS" take place in the same universe. The overall look is far to different and way to close to the time period of "TOS" for me to suspend my disbelief and it doesn't, at least right now to have some things they does help me suspend my disbelief like "TOS" and the Berman era does. Those shows had a 80 time gap,crossovers with TOS actors playing their characters again at times in the 24th century to help sell the idea.

I don't think the show is a radical reboot like the new ""Battlestar Galatica" was to the old show. In away it's not all that different from "Orville" only with the ability to use references and updated versions of established characters if it wants to. It's inspired by old Trek but also something that is it's own thing and not apart of it. Which is fine for me though I got to admit I wouldn't mind a more radical reboot. It's okay for "Orville" because that show is banking on comedy and nostiga to be part of it's appeal but i'm not sure if it's something I was wanting from the official Trek show. Still if it's entertaining which the first two episodes were I don't mind. Maybe the next show will be the one that really shakes things up. This show seems like a fine way to transition from the old stuff to maybe something even more bold in the future. I think "Enterprise" was suspose to do that but it failed because it relied on people who seemed burned out on Trek and their hadn't been any break between it and "Voyager."

Jason
 
The holograms are like holograms today(I think), as opposed to the EMH, whom you can touch, arm wrestle, etc. The EMH is an artificial intelligence, too. I think you could just walk right through that Sarek hologram.

That said, there's a reason holographic communication was abandoned on DS9(besides the novelty being introduced solely for Sisko and Eddington to be face to face). It's impractical. Face timing is simply a better way to communicate. For realz.

Oh, and props to Discovery(the show) for confirming that a window instead of a viewscreen on the bridge is simply dumb. Maybe the Discovery(the ship) won't have one.
 
Prax said:
Oh, and props to Discovery(the show) for confirming that a window instead of a viewscreen on the bridge is simply dumb. Maybe the Discovery(the ship) won't have one.
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I haven't watched the second episode yet. But not having a window didn't save the bridge of the Enterprise in Nemesis.
 
BillJ said:
I haven't watched the second episode yet. But not having a window didn't save the bridge of the Enterprise in Nemesis.
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Plus, didn't the TOS Enterprise have a big "glass" dome at the top of the bridge?

It could be that in the future, a window might be as strong as an adjacent piece of hull (transparent aluminum and all that).
 
Most definitely not a reboot.

What it is, is the closest thing in tone to Wrath of Khan, since Star Trek VI.

It's military sci-fi informed by nautical fiction like Master and Commander and Horatio Hornblower.

Military sci-fi has been a heavy part of Trek's DNA since at least The Balance of Terror.
 
dodge said:
This is one of those things were the "IMO" means jack shit.

They said it's Prime so it's Prime no matter how many polls you people do...
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That's only if you are naive enough to buy everything said from this troubled production at face value.

If they are simply calling it 'Prime' just to sell the series to fans, things start to get questionable.
 
Kane_Steel said:
That's only if you are naive enough to buy everything said from this troubled production at face value.

If they are simply calling it 'Prime' just to sell the series to fans, things start to get questionable.
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Using that logic I can say TOS isn't Prime because it doesn't look like any other series.
 
dodge said:
This is one of those things were the "IMO" means jack shit.

They said it's Prime so it's Prime no matter how many polls you people do...
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Yes. Or until something happens that is so overtly "Not the Prime Universe" (say Harry Mudd dies in 2256 and stays dead) that we have no way to reconcile it with established TOS trek.

There have been MANY instances of "relatively minor" inconsistencies between TNG and TOS that we as fans have tried to figure ways to explain them, and we have. So a similar magnitude "minor" inconsistency between DSC and TOS (or even ENT) should be given the same chance to be "explained away" by fans.

So until Harry Mudd dies before he makes it to TOS, or until we find that nobody named "James T. Kirk" ever has or ever will serve under Captain Garrovick on the USS Farragut, or some similar event inconsistent with established Prime Universe Trek, then there is no reason to doubt the producers when they say DSC takes place in the Prime Universe.
 
dodge said:
"Fans"?
There's no pleasing that lot either way, can't see why they'd bother lying. :shrug:
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It's the same reason why they needed Spock Prime in the Kelvin verse and constantly put out statements during the Kelvin movies that the Prime Timeline was still intact out there....

They don't have the balls to do a full-on reboot and are worried about isolating the base. But they still want to draw in a general audience outside the base.

We'll see if it actually pays off. I'm skeptical.
 
Tuskin38 said:
Using that logic I can say TOS isn't Prime because it doesn't look like any other series.
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Difference is TOS looking less advanced than TNG/DS9/Voy makes sense.... since TOS happened nearly a century earlier in the timeline.
 
I think it's a soft reboot. They seem to have a lot of similar history to the established ENT to TOS timeline, but there are enough differences, I'm more inclined to consider this a similar, but nevertheless parallel timeline to the PrimeVerse. I can perhaps be ok with that, but I don't consider DSC as feeding into the history of prime Trek at this point.
 
I probably should re-word.

No nothing happened in these episodes to suggest it was in the Kelvin Timeline (aside from all of the aesthetics) but if nothing ever happens on this show to connect it to the Prime Timeline then it might as well be in the Kelvin Timeline or its own timeline for that matter.

Why bother going out of your way to say that it takes place here if not to tie it into that universe in some way? Are they not allowed to say "Kelivn Timeline"? Is their some sort of dispute between CBS TV and Paramount Pictures? Did they have no other choice?
 
Cinema Geekly said:
I probably should re-word.

No nothing happened in these episodes to suggest it was in the Kelvin Timeline (aside from all of the aesthetics) but if nothing ever happens on this show to connect it to the Prime Timeline then it might as well be in the Kelvin Timeline or its own timeline for that matter.

Why bother going out of your way to say that it takes place here if not to tie it into that universe in some way? Are they not allowed to say "Kelivn Timeline"? Is their some sort of dispute between CBS TV and Paramount Pictures? Did they have no other choice?
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And if they do connect it with, say, one event or one character situation that was uniquely Prime Universe, would that make it the Prime Universe?

Having said that, what event or aspect of a character would truly be "uniquely Prime Universe"? I mean, even if we find out that Spock is serving about Pike's Enterprise and was involved with the Talosian incident, some fans might still argued that DSC is a third Universe -- Not prime, Not Kelvin, but DSC.

In fact, we could see dozens of things that connect it to the Prime Universe (and nothing that uniquely connects it to the Kelvin Universe), but an argument from some fans might still be "Yeah -- but it's its own universe".
 
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