Pike was born before the Kelvin incident "split" the universes. Therefore, if Pike looks like Bruce Greenwood in JJ's Kelvin Universe, then Pike could look like Bruce Greenwood in the Prime Universe. Or some other actor.
Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?
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So all those Vulcan and Andorian females who are meant to be as strong or stronger than a human male. What racist/sexist excuse would they hear? Your reply is based on either Starfleet being a purely Terran domain or all female aliens are weaker than human males.
Wasn't Spock the only Vulcan in starfleet? And we didn't see any Andorians in command levels at that point. Even though Vulcan and Andoria are part of the Federation, it seems like it was very rare for those from those species to serve in Starfleet.
Bruce Greenwood is too old now. Pike, at this time, was young in appearance. Looked like Jeffrey Hunter. I think Anson Mount would be a good casting choice for Pike.
Casting a new 'young Spock' and Kirk would be the biggest challenges though.
Ever heard of USS Intrepid with a crew of 400 personnel?
Basing an answer with real world budget limitations or limited world views of 1960's writers leads to the type of in universe explanations that reek of speciest point of view.
No its never been said Spock was the only Vulcan in Starfleet.
Yeah, no. Explaining sexist crap from the 60s with sexist crap from today doesn't fly. I know of a lot of women who could beat the crap out of me and who are physically stronger than many many men.
Andorians would be constantly turning the temperature down. Vulcans would run out of deodorizers. Species specific ships make sense. Maybe not all, but perhaps enduring being "alien" on another specie's ship is something you endure to further your career. That guy vacuuming the floor in TWOK, probably turned down a chance to helm Intrepid.
Yeah, but the point being made was that it is NOT the case that the reason Pike looks like Jeffrey Hunter in the Prime and looks like Bruce Greenwood in the JJ-verse is "because of the kelvin incident". The reason why they look different is simply because they were played by different actors.
Similarly, if DSC decides that want to have a young Kirk or a young Spock (and I'm not advocating that they do), they actors the choose do not need to look exactly like a young Shatner or Nimoy to be able to be believable as "Prime Kirk and Spock". Some vague similarities, maybe (say about as similar as Greenwood was to Hunter), but that's about it.
If, for example, they choose an actor for young Kirk who has different color eyes than Shatner, it's not as if that means that the hypothetical young Kirk in DSC can't possibly be from the same universe as TOS Kirk because of the different eye color.
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They completely changed the look of the Klingons, of Starfleet, of the uniforms... I doubt they draw a line at changing the age of one of the characters.
Just sayin'. I expect a recast. James Frain was excellent as Sarek, I say bring on Pike/Kirk/Spock 3.0
There are always random outliers in everything. But generally, men are far more physically strong than women. Hence why if a woman slaps a man in a club, they tend to overlook it. If a man slaps a woman, it's prison time.
Even in today's military, many female officers can't meet the same physical tests as men. Sometimes changes are made to accommodate them. In war time, especially with the Klingons, male captains make sense if Starfleet has gone militaristic.
Maybe, and I repeat, just maybe you would have a point if we would only talk about the physical differences between men and women in general. But this is the para-military of an interplanetary, multi-species Federation. I'm sure they would have no trouble at all to recruit female captains who are strong enough.
No, not remotely. Although in general men are physically stronger than women, I would strongly question whether that is at all relevant to commanding a starship. They don't arm wrestle their enemies.
Also no, both assault.
It's a reboot.
Aside from the crew of the Intrepid and perhaps other ships?
This guy looks nothing like the Klingons in DSC?
There's only the most superficial resemblance: he's bald.
The shape of the head, the nose makeup, the ears, and the skin tone are different than the DSC Klingons, as I described in further detail earlier in the thread.
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I'm not sure what it is, but since it's not Star Trek, the question of "reboot or not?" becomes moot.
They *could* if there was specifically a need for it. I doubt equity-based quotas still exist by the 2200s.
My point was that the male-dominated captaincy of TOS could be explained with a little creativity.
The miniskirts, however, ...you got me there. It's kinda hilarious to imagine that if Burham survives this series and lives into TOS, she'll be walking around in one of those outfits.
True, but the difference between DSC Klingons and JJTrek Klingons isn't any greater than the differnece bewteen TMP/TNG Kingons and TOS Klingons.
And before someone counters with "but they explained why TMP/TNG Klingons look so different than TOS Klingons", it should also be noted that it took them about 30 years to come up with an explanation (and whether that explanation was necessary or not is an argument for another thread).
So maybe there is an in-universe reason why these DSC Klingons look so different, but that reason won't be told to us until whatever Trek Franchise installment we have in 2047. Or maybe there isn't an in-universe reason.