Poll Do You Believe STD Is Actually a Reboot [After Seeing It]?

[cooleddie74]

It'd be nice if for once they didn't use a reset button for a time travel story but if they do nobody should be surprised. I get the feeling that the writers will send DSC back to the early days of the war and alter the timeline from that moment forward so that the Federation ends up winning the war and far earlier than in the original sequence of events.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

It'd be nice if for once they didn't use a reset button for a time travel story but if they do nobody should be surprised. I get the feeling that the writers will send DSC back to the early days of the war and alter the timeline from that moment forward so that the Federation ends up winning the war and far earlier than in the original sequence of events.

Could be, I mean trek has been so screwed by time travel, who knows how the timeline will play out. Pretty much everything since 1st contact is a anomaly

 

[Agony_Boothb]

I think time travel will be involved but that they will go back in time to a crucial point during the nine months discovery was absent. It makes zero sense to go back all the way to the start of the series.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It'd be nice if for once they didn't use a reset button for a time travel story.

 

[Shawnster]

Is based on a major time travel incident involving 24th century Spock and Nero.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Perhaps to undo the Klingon takeover the USS Relativity will recruit someone off of Discovery to fix the timeline.

 

[BillJ]

Is based on a major time travel incident involving 24th century Spock and Nero.

Right. But it doesn't hit the reset button like Discovery is clearly going to have to do to remain in the Prime timeline.

 

[seigezunt]

Clearly?

 

[cooleddie74]

Stop that. Don't make me slap you.

 

[Lord Garth]

The Federation can always win back what the Klingons took. Even if not, the preview for next week said the Klingons only captured 20% of Federation territory. That's a heavy loss but not complete, total devastation.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

The Federation can always win back what the Klingons took. Even if not, the preview for next week said the Klingons only captured 20% of Federation territory. That's a heavy loss but not complete, total devastation.

Yeah and 1/3rd the fleet is lost ia large, but not donething that is unwinnable

 

[Lt. Tyler]

Obvious total reboot.

 

[TommyR01D]

I use DSC. Not DIS. Not STD.

All the hip and cool kids use DSC. You guys do wanna be hip and cool...don't you?

If the title contains more than one word, use the first letter of each.
The Original Series - TOS
The Animated Series - TAS
The Motion Picture - TMP
The Wrath of Khan - TWOK
The Search for Spock - TSFS
The Voyage Home - TVH
The Next Generation - TNG
The Final Frontier - TFF
The Undiscovered Country - TUC
First Contact - FC
Into Darkness - ID

If one of those words is a number, use a numeral.
Deep Space Nine - DS9

If the title is just one word, use the first three letters.
Generations - GEN
Voyager - VOY
Insurrection - INS
Enterprise - ENT
Nemesis - NEM

Following this logic, the latest additions should be clear-cut.
Beyond - BEY
Discovery - DIS

 

[Mudd]

STD is just a mess; they're doing shit at random.

 

[Gepard]

STD is just a mess; they're doing shit at random.

Which has no bearing whatsoever on abbrivating the title.

 

[KennyB]

Hey, they can’t all be masterpieces like Tin Man.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

STD is just a mess; they're doing shit at random.

#sherlock #nope #benedictcucumbersnatch

 

[Lord Garth]

#sherlock #nope #benedictcucumbersnatch

Absolutely Right

 

[Jedi Marso]

Well, finally used two days of a seven day free trial of CBS to binge Disco and see what I thought.

After watching the show, here's how it resolves in my head if I try to force it to make any sense at all:

TOS is it's own timeline- the 'quantum signature' of that universe would also be different than Disco's. There's that problem solved.

I guess that the prime timeline splits, forks, or whatever during the events of First Contact. Zephram Cochrane and his people are exposed to 24th Century tech and knowledge of the future, and Borg debris from the 24th Century is left on 21st Century Earth. The Enterprise timeline springs from that, and the Disco timeline is Enterprise's 23rd Century.

The Klingon disparity cannot be resolved, except to say that Discovery's timeline is yet again an alternate of the one I described above: like in that episode of TNG (Parallels) when Worf is hopping universes, and some of them are so nearly identical that the differences are like having a different painting on the wall. So that would be to say that Discovery doesn't spring from the ENT timeline we saw, but another parallel very similar.

Discovery's uniforms, production values, and starship designs all look like a natural outgrowth of what we saw in Enterprise. They don't reconcile with TOS, and after 50 years I wouldn't really expect them to anyway. Enterprise's tech/ productions values didn't with reconcile with TOS. It also looks to me like CBS has attempted to make Disco's production values fall in line with the JJ-verse movies. An understandable move on their part but destined to rouse fan-ire if they are going to insist on calling it the prime timeline.

What of the show itself? It's dreck. The writing, dialogue, characterizations- everything is a hot mess. Sarek and Amanda appear younger than their daughter- I guess that's possible with Sarek, but not Amanda. Having them in the story at all- totally unnecessary and gives it all 'small universe' syndrome like SW suffers from. The capper for me was when the Sarek agreed to putting the mirror-universe emperor in command of Discovery to commit genocide against the Klingon homeworld. Getting to that point was bad enough- that little tidbit was the point where I mentally struck my colors.

The fx were gorgeous- I'll give it kudos on that one point.

 

[Gepard]

The fx were gorgeous- I'll give it kudos on that one point.

I can't even give it that – with a few exceptions like the set extensions, the VFX looked amateur. They just pumped them full of enough bright colors to hope nobody would notice.