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Do we know why Pike and co are in the different uniforms?
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Maybe they're slowly changing the uniforms and only certain ships have gotten them, likely as a trial run to see how they hold up. Eventually all of them will get the new ones. Sort of like how DS9 had the colored shoulders uniforms before TNG while taking place at the same time, then by Generations they were starting to change over.
thats how the first novel described it
Quite possibly, although it's also worth noting that the DS9 coveralls weren't actually supposed to be replacements for the TNG uniforms at all, not to begin with anyway. (Nor were the two-piece TNG uniforms intended as shipwide replacements for their early season one-piecers, which continued to be worn alongside them by many secondary characters and extras, even into the later seasons.) Rather, at least initially, they were supposed to be different classes of uniform in use simultaneously, as we also saw in TMP. (Of course, this intent tended to get a bit muddled as things went on.) So that's a possible scenario as well.
-MMoM
I actually like the DSC uniforms. The Desperate Hours fix (that the TOS pilot uniforms were only for Constitution-class ship crews) was enough for me. I think I'd like the new TOS uniforms we're seeing here had they been in the Abramsverse or something. They look fine on their own, but I think the classic TOS uniforms were better (the odd jacket look of the tops is distracting). Frankly, rather than a TOS redesign, I wish we had gotten a nice version of the TOS pilot turtlenecks.
Long story short, I'd be happy if DSC keeps the DSC uniforms as the main uniform for the duration of the show. I mean, we've still got a few years before we hit the main TOS seasons, were we see the classic uniforms have spread throughout the fleet. In any event, I think they look better than the new TOS uniforms (although I think following the novel's world building about the two uniforms was the right call).
Starfleet obviously has money to blow when they feel like it, that's why they replace the uniforms every few years in a rotation not unsimilar to the average length of a television series from the 90s. There's a shortage of the kind of textiles they use to make the uniforms from the 2280s right thru to the early 2300s, which is why the TWOK uniforms are retained, but they solve that as soon as they figure out how to make spandex work in space.
Yeah, right:
Ask 100 hard core Star Trek fans: "Hey, what is Star Trek?" and you'll get 110 different answers.
Let's say that the uniforms in the Cage were the same as the uniforms in TOS.
Yeah -- I realize that's not quite true onscreen, but they were close enough for me to think they were the same "in-universe". Let's also say that "in universe", Anson Mount's Pike is wearing a TOS regular-production-run uniform, ignoring the slight differences (asymmetrical neck, etc).
That simplifies things a bit, and we only need to ask why Discovery uniforms are different than TOS uniforms. We don't need to wonder how we can evolve from DSC uniforms --> Cage uniforms --> TOS uniforms, and how DSC Pike's uniform will fit into that progression.
Yeah -- I realize that's not quite true onscreen, but they were close enough for me to think they were the same "in-universe". Let's also say that "in universe", Anson Mount's Pike is wearing a TOS regular-production-run uniform, ignoring the slight differences (asymmetrical neck, etc).
That simplifies things a bit, and we only need to ask why Discovery uniforms are different than TOS uniforms. We don't need to wonder how we can evolve from DSC uniforms --> Cage uniforms --> TOS uniforms, and how DSC Pike's uniform will fit into that progression.
This is why I put a lot of stock in to authorial intent. Not that I mind the mental justifications that I can do for the variation demonstrated on screen but I can take some of the variation as simply different interpretations of the work, which I would expect from an artistic endeavor, rather than a strict historical recreation.
They were sent to a farm upstate.
Replicators would seem to make that a moot point. The Discovery "TOS" uniforms look to just be the Discovery uniforms in different colors. They should already know how they hold up.
Poor Spock in The Voyage Home. He seemed to remember everything about everything, except the fact he could replicate a uniform.
That wasn't on the test.Replicators would seem to make that a moot point. The Discovery "TOS" uniforms look to just be the Discovery uniforms in different colors. They should already know how they hold up.
Poor Spock in The Voyage Home. He seemed to remember everything about everything, except the fact he could replicate a uniform.
Poor Spock in The Voyage Home. He seemed to remember everything about everything, except the fact he could replicate a uniform.
McCOY: I don't know if you've got the whole picture or not, but he's not exactly working on all thrusters...
-MMoM
No. We need to go full-on Miami Vice. Complete with Edward James Olmos.
They're usually variations on the idea "if I like it, it's Star Trek. If I don't like it, it's not."
Not always, though. For just one example of many, I pretty much despise Nemesis from beginning to end. Yet, I would never claim it isn't Star Trek! But perhaps I am a bit unusual...
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Certainly sounds unusual to me.Not always, though. For just one example of many, I pretty much despise Nemesis from beginning to end. Yet, I would never claim it isn't Star Trek! But perhaps I am a bit unusual...
-MMoM
The canonical literalists would have to accept that some Enterprise crew wore the WNMHGB turtlenecks while Kirk was in black-collar, due to this scene in "The Man Trap."
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x01/themantrap213.jpg
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=22&page=9
