Do we all love Lower Decks because we don't take it seriously???

[Watersluis]

It's super rare, but off the top of my head I can think of Richard Belzer appearing as NBC's Munch on both HBO's The Wire and Fox's The X-Files, which could mean they all exist in the same shared universe.

I really dislike it when they merge universes that were clearly originally separate, causing all sorts of problems.
This is why Marvel and DC have shared universes, which they originally did not, and it leaves one to wonder why Batman isn't calling Superman to fix most of the problems he faces in a second.

But then again, Superman is known to not use his “super speed” when it could solve many problems.

 

[Sci]

I really dislike it when they merge universes that were clearly originally separate, causing all sorts of problems.

If there's actually a continuity problem with that kind of crossover, it's usually best to just accept that two different versions of the same character exist in separate continuities than to try to assume it's all the same universe. Like, I would be more inclined to say that a separate version of John Munch exists in both universes than to say that The X-Files and Arrested Development exist in the same universe -- if for no other reason than that I can't imagine George Bluth Sr. wouldn't accidentally stumble in on the Cigarette Smoking Man's evil meetings at some point.

 

[Grizzlor]

I just finished a binge of the series finally, and I LOVED it. Why? Well it was funny, and reminded me so much of Futurama.

PS: All that Pakled!!!!

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Personally I'm able to take Lower Decks more seriously than Discovery and Picard, as a continuation of where Berman-era Trek left off with Enterprise and maybe even in general.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rate modern live action Trek around the same level, but I find the exaggerated way that Lower Decks characters are written to ring more true than the exaggerated way Discovery characters are written. Plus you've got a mushroom dimension supporting all life in the multiverse, memory being recovered from a single neuron, Romulan ninjas... I think they forget which ones are supposed to be the cartoons sometimes. (Just like I forgot some much better examples for that list.)

 

[dupersuper]

I can't imagine George Bluth Sr. wouldn't accidentally stumble in on the Cigarette Smoking Man's evil meetings at some point.

What makes you think he hasn't?

 

[fireproof78]

Plus you've got a mushroom dimension supporting all life in the multiverse, memory being recovered from a single neuron, Romulan ninjas... I think they forget which ones are supposed to be the cartoons sometimes.

Nah...that's just Star Trek being Star Trek. Unless thought as the basis of all reality rings more true as Trek than the mushroom dimension?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Personally I'm able to take Lower Decks more seriously than Discovery and Picard, as a continuation of where Berman-era Trek left off with Enterprise and maybe even in general.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rate modern live action Trek around the same level, but I find the exaggerated way that Lower Decks characters are written to ring more true than the exaggerated way Discovery characters are written. Plus you've got a mushroom dimension supporting all life in the multiverse, memory being recovered from a single neuron, Romulan ninjas... I think they forget which ones are supposed to be the cartoons sometimes. (Just like I forgot some much better examples for that list.)

Bro, do you even Star Trek?
It has crystals that send you faster than light.
Human-alien hybrids
Telepathy
Space biker Klingons
Mind transfers
Subspace that connects the entire universe

The Kowat Milat, seem more like Samurai mixed with Shaolin monks than Ninjas

 

[Kor]

On the question of cross-network crossovers, CBS's FBI had a crossover with NBC's Chicago P.D.
And because of other crossovers, the FBI/Chicago P.D. crossover would also mean that FBI and its spinoffs on CBS are in the same universe as the other "Chicago" shows and the Law & Order franchise, all on NBC.
These are all Dick Wolf/Wolf Entertainment productions, though. So that probably makes it easier to cut through the red tape with rights to character usage or whatever.

Kor

 

[dupersuper]

I know the Macgyver/Magnum PI/Hawaii 5-0 reboots all happen in the same universe.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I mean, has that ever happened? Shows on two different networks taking place in the same world, doing crossovers, etc.?

There was this show that aired back in the '60s on NBC that later had spin-offs in syndication and then some on UPN and now has some more that air on CBS's streaming platform.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Actually an early Homicide episode establishes X-Files as fictional.

Ss there would appear to be two Munches: one X-Files, one "every other show".

An episode of Millennium also had someone watching The X-Files... and then later Scully and Mulder meet up with the retired Millennium guy (Frank Black) in The X-Files episode "Millennium". So, clearly The X-Files show exists in The X-Files universe. We also see them making an X-Files movie in The X-Files episode "Hollywood A.D."

 

[Commander Troi]

We also see them making an X-Files movie in The X-Files episode "Hollywood A.D."

Funniest Episode EVAR!

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I feel as if the concept of canon is poison to discussion sometimes. Like it's the first thing that matters when considering a Star Trek show? It should be possible to enjoy or not enjoy something without worrying whether or not it is 'real' within a fictional framework. Canon is a trap for the mind and anathema to the imagination.

I enjoy everything from 1965-Present in regards to Star Trek. There are novels, audio dramas, fan films, comics and web comics that tell Star Trek stories and I don't worry about whether nor not they are canon. All of Star Trek is made-up stories and even the stuff that was supposedly 'canon' from TOS to Enterprise doesn't fit together that well. You just have to take it all as it is and enjoy it the best you can.

I love LD, BTW. A breath of fresh air and a sign that the present team working on bringing Star Trek to TV are committed to making a diverse roster of shows. I like having funny ones, dark ones, fannish ones etc. Certainly better than the Voyager/Enterprise approach of 'TNG in a different ship'. It's that same homogeny that killed Star Trek in it's tracks about 20 years ago.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

You do have to take it as it is and enjoy it the best you can, but man it's so much more satisfying when it all clicks together properly!

 

[fireproof78]

feel as if the concept of canon is poison to discussion sometimes. Like it's the first thing that matters when considering a Star Trek show? It should be possible to enjoy or not enjoy something without worrying whether or not it is 'real' within a fictional framework. Canon is a trap for the mind and anathema to the imagination.

Well put.

 

[RPOW0614]

I love this show solely because it does not take itself seriously.
The stuffier the subject the better it is for satire and Star Trek is stuffiness squared.
Mike McMahan is lovingly poking fun of the entire Star Trek universe and doing a great job of it.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

The stuffier the subject the better it is for satire and Star Trek is stuffiness squared.
Mike McMahan is lovingly poking fun of the entire Star Trek universe and doing a great job of it.

It never feels cruel does it? You can really feel all the humour comes from a place of love rather than one of derision.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I know the Macgyver/Magnum PI/Hawaii 5-0 reboots all happen in the same universe.

And they all take place in the JAG/NCIS universe because Hawaii 5-0 and NCIS Los Angeles did crossover. Add Scorpion to it since an NCIS LA character appeared on Scorpion.

 

[dupersuper]

And they all take place in the JAG/NCIS universe because Hawaii 5-0 and NCIS Los Angeles did crossover. Add Scorpion to it since an NCIS LA character appeared on Scorpion.

Cool, I liked Scorpion.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

I take Lower Decks very seriously, they obviously know their lore and have fun with it as well as giving us engaging and interesting characters to follow.