Do people lose thei virginity in star Trek too...

[1001001]

I could walk up to the average guy, have a conversation, and find that me and him have a lot in common and spending time with him would most likely be fun. Not so with the average woman. Me and the average woman will have nothing in common. Her idea of a good time is shopping and gossiping, and having guys spend money on her to take her places. I wish i could find a girl who knew something about computers, or physics or classic horror movies, or watched Sci fi for that matter. What I end up with is a vegetarian, animal loving, militant gay rights activist, pseudo bisexual, man hating feminist with daddy issues, left wing liberal hippie flower child who is as shallow as the kiddie pool but thinks she's deep because she has a million in one political opinions (all of which are stupid) like guns are bad, national boarders are bad because we should all share, oh and writes dark depressing poetry about slitting their wrist because their ex cheated on them. They spend the entire date whining about what jerks their ex boyfriends are, what their gal pals are up to, their stupid cat, and other subjects which give me flashbacks of being a little kid stuck at the dinner table on Thanksgiving with all the old ladies in my family squawking about everything and yet nothing.

Wow.

For 50 bucks you can go out with either one of these two girls, or a hologram.
This is typical college girl 1
She is all about her feminism and ultra liberal political views. You are not permitted to disagree with her or you're a nazi bigot hater. And anyone who eats meat is a disgusting cannibal, and meat eating is a typical macho male thing because men are afraid of their feminine side.
She wants to save animals and become a veterinarian. She's also interested in psychology.
She will spend the entire time talking about politics, complaining that women aren't treated as equals, all the while enjoying the fact that you're paying for everything on this date.
Chances of getting laid on the first date 3%
Chances of getting laid within the first week of dating her 7%
Chances of getting laid within the first month 15% if you become a vegetarian, adopt a cat, join her gay rights protest every Sunday, and attend her men-are-pigs feminist meetings every Saturday.


Typical college girl #2
She's arrogant, immature, loud, obnoxious, intoxicated on something, and spends most of the date texting someone, probably some playa that she has a crush on, that is only going to call her back as a last resort for a booty call. But hey, at least she ain't a political activist, in fact when you ask her who she's voting for she answers "I don't know, Lil' Wayne?" leaving you wondering if that is her idea of a joke, or if she is serious.
Chances of getting laid on the first date 50%
Chances of getting an STD after getting laid 50%
Chances you will ever see her after the first date – 10% but 100% if you can hook her up with some weed (once you hook her up with the weed, she'll invite her new boyfriend over so you can hook him up with weed too).


Now meet our hologram, our blow up doll.
She feels as real as any living woman.
She is polite and simulates a conversation very well.
She is classy and very well educated, in fact, she has the entire world encyclopedia downloaded into her matrix. She could help you do your college homework. As for her politics, she doesn’t have any political beliefs, but is well versed in political theory. She sings and plays the piano (technically this is a picture of Jewel Kiltcher thus it should be guitar she plays LOL). As for her turn on's, well, whatever you're into, she's into.
Chances of getting laid on the first date – 100%
Chances of seeing you for a second date – if you got 50 bucks, you got the day with her.
Draw back? She's not technically real. But in the heat of the moment, your penis doesn't know that.

Double wow.

I think you've obviously had some experiences which have shaped your perceptions of things (as we all have). But this stuff is awfully cynical and awfully demeaning to women. You're basically arguing Billy's POV from Futurama (they were robots instead of holograms but...), and we saw what happened to him....



I will simply say that I agree with other posters: a hologram woman is just a very sophisticated sex toy. It is, ultimately, masturbation, not sex. You would still be a virgin.

 

[T'Girl]

We've seen from countless TNG and VOY episodes when the Doctor tries leaving Sickbay, his arm or whatever extremity just disappears.

What happen then. when during an operation the Doctor's fingers reaches inside a patent?

Now, unless the woman (or dude) has holoemitters in her vagina (or his bunghole), wouldn't the penis just disappear around the point insertion would occur?

If that were the case, then when a (real) man has sex with a holo-character, where does his penis actually go once he penetrates the holo-character's coochie? If there is no "inside the woman" beyond the direct line of sight of the holo-emitters, what has a slippery grip upon his penis?

I once conjectured that The Doctor's mouth and teeth disappear whenever he closes his mouth.

As I understand it, the holo-character is a textured forcefield, that's what you feel when you touch it, any sweat, saliva, or other bodily fluids come from the replicator and are made to appear at the appropriate location on (or in) the textured forcefield. So regardless if you are pitching or catching that day, the forcefield would possess the correct shape protrusions and cavities for you to play with.

My question is, how would sex with a holodeck character work if you're a woman?

I would think so, using my example of the doctor reaching inside a patent.

 

[R. Star]

Best. Thread. Ever.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

I knew that Sex=high traffic.

 

[RB_Kandy]

As for a holo-penis penetrating a woman, I don't see why not. The vagina wouldn't close thus a straight line can be formed with no break.

And then there is the question of whether an object can exist within an object in holo-physics.
For example, people eat food in the holodeck, where does the food go when you close your mouth? does it immediately disappear or can it stay in your mouth.

It was my belief that material can exist anywhere within the holo-grid, even inside of objects that were physical, unless the emitters were unable to penetrate the outer walls of the physical object such as tritanium or lead etc.

Remember Neelix's holo-lungs? they existed inside of him, with his body closed.

PS. This has got to be the weirdest threat I have ever posted in, in my life.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Most of the time food eaten in the holodeck is replicated food so you actually eat something. Though one time Tom Paris mentioned holographic wine which I guess it simply light and force fields.

 

[T'Girl]

The vagina wouldn't close thus a straight line can be formed with no break.

Unless it was a holographic alien woman, whose vagina possessed multiple nasty sharp teeth, and would obviously be capable of completely closing, even with a Human penis inside it.

 

[R. Star]

The vagina wouldn't close thus a straight line can be formed with no break.

Unless it was a holographic alien woman, whose vagina possessed multiple nasty sharp teeth, and would obviously be capable of completely closing, even with a Human penis inside it.

How can you follow that up with a smiley?!

 

[Turd Ferguson]

The vagina wouldn't close thus a straight line can be formed with no break.

Unless it was a holographic alien woman, whose vagina possessed multiple nasty sharp teeth, and would obviously be capable of completely closing, even with a Human penis inside it.

How can you follow that up with a smiley?!

Man, that would suck to be on the holodeck the day the safety protocols went offline on that one!

 

[Rarewolf]

They could hardly blame a 20th century writer if their character got out of control [/B]- no, you would blame the individual who maintains the holodeck or possible the team that designed the safety system program.

Yes but what I mean is the assault would still happen, they wouldn't shrug it off saying it was just a hologram. The experience would unfortunately be real.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

What happens if you are having sex and the safety goes of on the holodeck?

You get pregnant or end up with holobabies?

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Sorry to sound like a feminist, but...

Now to sound like a misogynist.

So sounding like a feminist needs an apology, but sounding like a misogynist doesn't? One more little hint that you are (not just sound like) a misogynist.

 

[JarodRussell]

What happens if you are having sex and the safety goes of on the holodeck?

You get pregnant or end up with holobabies?

No, because... err te hell with it.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Wow....

Now that I've read the rest of his posts... Yeah, "wow" says it all.

 

[T'Girl]

But supposing someone was running a recreation of a crime fiction - hunting down a rapist - and the holodeck had one of its occassional faults, turning hunted into hunter. They could hardly blame a 20th century writer if their character got out of control. But nor would it be consentual from the player.

no, you would blame the individual who maintains the holodeck or possible the team that designed the safety system program.

Yes but what I mean is the assault would still happen, they wouldn't shrug it off saying it was just a hologram. The experience would unfortunately be real.

I'm not sure the term "assault" applies, given that you stipulated a fault in the holodeck. If you get your arm caught in a piece of industrial machinery owing to a fault, that isn't a case of assault. And no, you would not "blame" the hologram itself, because with a few notable exceptions, the holo-character isn't doing it's own thinking, it's a puppet of the computer controlling the holodeck.

To be honest Rarewolf, I'm not sure that I understand the point you're making.

 

[scotpens]

One silly question ...ermm ...when holographic adventure is over where fluids like sperm or whatever other aliens have go ? when simulation is over it falls on the floor?and u must clean it before someone comes?

Here we go again, folks. One more time . . .

Confessions of a Holodeck Janitor

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

... and I never been on a date with a guy

I can't help but wonder if that might work better for you. You could date and have sexual relations, without the encumberment of interacting with females. I know a few gay men who don't particularly like socializing with women, and there are some private gay clubs that won't let women in the door.

I've read his long posts now and that was my thought.

He obviously gets along fine with his mates, without all the horror of giggling and vegetarianism. If one of those mates magically turned into a woman with exactly the same personality and just a higher pitched voice it would be perfect for him.

 

[Rarewolf]

because with a few notable exceptions, the holo-character isn't doing it's own thinking, it's a puppet of the computer controlling the holodeck.

To be honest Rarewolf, I'm not sure that I understand the point you're making.

I'm saying the fact it wouldn't be real wouldn't matter, it could still do the same mental damage. Being hunted by a holographic pychopath might still give you nightmares. Being beaten up or assulted by a holographic character in a situation that should be safe might make you wary of going into a holodeck again.

You said anyone going into a holodeck would be consenting, I'm saying with the usual glitches it wouldn't be impossible for things to spirial out of control, without holographic characters being out of character.

Still it does bring about another issue. It's not that hard to disable the safeties. Would the computer just let the holodeck kill you, or someone else?

Seska's sabotage meant the holodeck recreation of the Doctor could adminster a lethal treatment. Picard used a holographic gun to kill in First Contact; could he have been shot by the mob first?

If anyone walked in on one of Worfs programs with the safeties off, would they be a legitamate target?

What happens if you are having sex and the safety goes of on the holodeck?

You get pregnant or end up with holobabies?

No, because... err te hell with it.

But if you reversed it and wanted to live out a long fantasy, you could have a holographic wife and ask the computer to create a holographic child for you, based on your own genetic history. It's a fantasy world.

Come to think of it everything Picard was offered in the Nexus, he could tell the holodeck give him to. He knew it wasn't real.

 

[T'Girl]

What happens if you are having sex and the safety goes of on the holodeck?

You get pregnant or end up with holobabies?

As I understand it, the replicator can't produce living matter, that's why it couldn't make Picard a new heart. So holo-characters can't have real sperm or eggs.

If anyone walked in on one of Worfs programs with the safeties off, would they be a legitamate target?

If you and I were standing on a holodeck. And you said "computer, deactivate the holodeck safeties," but I (again standing next to you) did not say something similar, would the safeties be off for me?

The holodeck computer is fairly sophisticated. If we were simply engaging in a exercise program, and I was on level eight, and you were on level three, surely the holodeck computer could handle that. So why not two different levels of safety?

 

[Rarewolf]

The holodeck computer is fairly sophisticated. If we were simply engaging in a exercise program, and I was on level eight, and you were on level three, surely the holodeck computer could handle that. So why not two different levels of safety?

Well there's those Borg in First Contact. Disabled safties by Picard allows him to kill the Borg. Who were former crew members.