I felt like that after The Force Awakens.
Rogue One and particularly The Last Jedi brought me around. Somewhat reluctantly I may add.
The prospect of JJ screwing up the ending of the core movies bothers me deeply.
Fingers crossed...
Do a Kelvin timeline TV show spinoff!
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Rogue One and particularly The Last Jedi brought me around. Somewhat reluctantly I may add.
The prospect of JJ screwing up the ending of the core movies bothers me deeply.
Fingers crossed...
now hes completely done on SW9 its not impossible he might go back to Trek and have a more 'hands on' role in a ST4 (i.e. a producer role) than he did on Beyond (he wont have had much to do with it while he was knee deep in SW7. it was pretty much a collaboration between Pegg & Lin/ Trek+Cornetto+F&F). he seemed pretty taken with the idea of Tarantino doing it so hopefully he'll help bring it to the screen
Fringe was great, loved that show.
Wait and see, I think that The Rise of Skywalker will be a triumph that washes away memory of TLJ. Reinvigorating franchise is what JJ does, he rescued Mission Impossible and Star Trek and now he'll save Star Wars once again. And then he'll go on and make a success of Superman.
I felt bored after The Force Awakens. It wasn't 'atrocious' to me, it was just so painfully obvious that it wasnt in any way shape or form made for me (a general lover of movies and scifi and fantasy, but one who hasn't spent my whole life in the warm embrace of Star Wars nostalgia).
If anything was ever going to 'end' Star Wars for me, nothing could have ever come any closer than RotS. But I wasnt a huge fan in the first place, so there was nothing to 'end'. I gave Abrams a shot purely out of curiousity and he fumbled the ball on empty nostalgia. I gave Johnson a shot purely because Daisy Riddley was just a fun lead and I absolutely loved what we got from them, moreso than any other star wars film. So, no, Im not thrilled about the climax of the story being handed back to Abrams.
I will agree, though, that Fringe was a lot of fun and definitely JJs high water mark.
If anything was ever going to 'end' Star Wars for me, nothing could have ever come any closer than RotS. But I wasnt a huge fan in the first place, so there was nothing to 'end'. I gave Abrams a shot purely out of curiousity and he fumbled the ball on empty nostalgia. I gave Johnson a shot purely because Daisy Riddley was just a fun lead and I absolutely loved what we got from them, moreso than any other star wars film. So, no, Im not thrilled about the climax of the story being handed back to Abrams.
I will agree, though, that Fringe was a lot of fun and definitely JJs high water mark.
That is not what I was pointing out, JJ BLATENTLY copied TWOK and made some minor adjustments to fit his idea. JJ might be a decent TV Creator, but he needs to leave movies alone!
Pretty sure he's moved on to rerebooting Superman for Warner Bros now he's finished with Star Wars.now hes completely done on SW9 its not impossible he might go back to Trek and have a more 'hands on' role in a ST4 (i.e. a producer role) than he did on Beyond (he wont have had much to do with it while he was knee deep in SW7. it was pretty much a collaboration between Pegg & Lin/ Trek+Cornetto+F&F). he seemed pretty taken with the idea of Tarantino doing it so hopefully he'll help bring it to the screen
I loved The Force Awakens, Rogue One and The Last Jedi. Never much cared for Star Wars until Abrams came along.
My favourite thing of his will probably always be 2009 Star Trek.
Did he? Where was Genesis in Into Darkness? Or Khan's quest for Vengeance against Kirk? Where was the evil Admiral and plot to start a war with the Klingons in Wrath of Khan?
Into Darkness copied one scene (which was well done, although the scream afterwards was awful), got there in a completely different way with totally different motivations for the characters (WoK was the end of a long friendship, ID was Spock realising what friendship meant) and people say it's "minor adjustments". It's a totally different story.
You're not listening, and I'm out of patience. *flips open communicator* Mr. Ducane, one to return.
I'd suggest it was you who wasn't listening.
What harm did he do to TWOK? Khan and Kirk were certainly not in the same relationship as TWOK, and despite the 2 mins of repeated dialog, the plot to TWOK and ID could not be more different.
I get that Abrams isn't for anyone but I see no problem with him working on movies.
Into Darkness was not a remake of The Wrath of Khan. End. Of. Story.
No one who was really paying attention believes Into Darkness was a remake of WoK, and anyway, it appears the Admiral has beamed herself out of whatever fanfic she was writing and returned to the timeship Relativity in the 29th century.
Perhaps we could get back to the topic of a hypothetical Kelvin-timeline series now.
Whoa, I didn't realize this thread got a second wind.
But I just wanted to point out that the point in my original post was Kelvin timeline show with a different crew and characters - not Pine, Quinto, Urban, etc. (although a John Cho/Captain Sulu series is intriguing to me.) I just thought further exploring the Kelvin timeline would give the writers/producers a certain liberty to tell fresh stories without the fear of violating that canon. Not sure if I made that point clear in my long, rambling, original post (I really need to get better at this stuff.)
If ya'll still disagree with the point of my thread, fair enough. It's all good. I've moved on anyway - I wants the Anson Mount Captain Pike show, and I wants it now!
But I just wanted to point out that the point in my original post was Kelvin timeline show with a different crew and characters - not Pine, Quinto, Urban, etc. (although a John Cho/Captain Sulu series is intriguing to me.) I just thought further exploring the Kelvin timeline would give the writers/producers a certain liberty to tell fresh stories without the fear of violating that canon. Not sure if I made that point clear in my long, rambling, original post (I really need to get better at this stuff.)
If ya'll still disagree with the point of my thread, fair enough. It's all good. I've moved on anyway - I wants the Anson Mount Captain Pike show, and I wants it now!
I think a show about the new Vulcan Homeland near Romulan space would be good. A metaphor for the creation of Isreal. Savick as the series lead who is a teenager who is in the defense force but wants to join Starfleet but also wants to find her father and kill him for raping her mom. Also Admiral Robert April would be in charge of the Starfleet base that bumps heads with the Vulcan defense force created by the goverment. Jason
Only after consigning NEMESIS to the same fate because its ripoffs were just about as bad...
Besides, with the overuse of lens flare and puke-inducing camera pans, wasn't DISCOVERY already a Kelvinverse prequel? Kelvin's the current "prime" timeline anyway.
If you'd watched the movies and Discovery, you'd know why that's untrue.
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