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Disenchantment

^Netflix tends to precede the first episode of a new season with an extended recap of events in the previous season. Do we know if they're doing that here?
 
^Netflix tends to precede the first episode of a new season with an extended recap of events in the previous season. Do we know if they're doing that here?
They probably are but I often find those refreshers a little lacking. There are a lot of developments in the last two episodes (probably the one or two before those, too) which a minute or two aren't going to cover properly.
 
Looking forward to getting home from work to binge the sh*t out of this.

Who is Elfo's mother?
Who recovered his body on the beach?
Who kidnapped Luci?
What is the nature of the prophecy and how does it relate to Bean?
What are Dagmar's true motivations?
What were Oona and Odval plotting before Dagmar turned everyone into stone?
And most important of all, will Zøg be able to recover his lost crown, which he accidentally dropped into the moat?

1. She's tall
2. Mysterious beings
3. See above
4. Bean is magical, only my opinion
5. She is an enigma and a great character. Will be fun to watch this unfold.
6. Probably trying to stop her from turning everyone into stone.
7. More importantly did you notice that his crown has a very Bender like antenna?

Total speculation here:
My guess is that both Bean and Elfo are magical beings of some kind and are destined to be the ultimate power couple of the kingdoms. Like Jon and Daenerys only with a much higher alcohol content.

I had the pleasure of meeting Maurice Lamarche and Pat Paulson last year at the Boston Con and they were really nice guys. Maurice told me that they had already done the voice overs for season two of Disenchantment. While he couldn't tell me any specifics about the story he did say "Everyone is hiding something and no one is who they seem."

Besides being nice guys I got to hear Maurice do Morbo and Calculon live.
Him and Pat were riffing as Pinky and the Brain all day.
 
I loved the whole season (excuse me, part...what is it with Netflix and these "parts" they're insisting on for seasons a year apart?). It's a lot stronger than the first season with only a few questionable jokes and thankfully no lovesick Elfo (apart from a couple small-handed asides). I was surprised how, besides from the opening three-episode arc, the season was mostly episodic and didn't draw back to the overall arcs. Things started to come together a little at the end, but not nearly as much as last season. In some ways, more questions were raised than answered.

We did find out who Elfo's mother is, but Elfo wasn't privy to it and the show isn't in a hurry to get back to it. I guess that's part of the larger, long-term plans (not unlike the nature of Fry).

We learn somewhat about Dagmar's mad plans for Bean and the nature of the prophecy, but after Bean escaped from her clutches, that whole thread fell to the wayside, until the final scene. For a moment, I thought the season wasn't going to reveal what discovery had terrified Bean in the underbelly of Dreamland. Now we know. Sort of.

Oh, and it turns out Cloyd and Becky are in fact Bean's aunt and uncle. I should've rewatched the whole first season instead of the last two, but I don't recall there being any hints of any relation between them and Bean (and Dagmar, for that matter). My heart broke for Jerry, who was a loyal friend to Bean and was killed for his efforts, only for the viewer to find out that he was another uncle and he was brain damaged by the same crown they wanted to thrust upon Bean. I imagine we'll learn about what's really going on with Dagmar and the prophecy later, but it seems rather murky at the moment (aside from the typical "ruler of all!).

My two favorite episodes were on the opposite ends of the season and featured the most creativity: The visits to Hell and Steamland. The stairway to Hell alone is a wonderful visual and I loved even just the few minutes Bean and Luci were traveling down them. The rest of Hell was fun seeing and I loved how Luci kept acting more devilish in order to gain more power so he could help his friends. As for Steamland, I love the very idea of fantasy steampunk and, no, I don't care if it doesn't make a lick of sense. It's to damn fun to nitpick.

While we did get more questions than answers, I'm really enjoying how the show isn't rushing to answer all of the questions at once, slowly seeding mysteries and schemes and whatnot. I even like how when we do get answers (such as Elfo's mother), it's not immediately dealt with, left for the stew over until it's further addressed later on. I wonder why people from Steamland want Zøg dead and I hope it's not something as mundane as forcing Dreamland out of ignorance and/or a simple power grab for Odval and the Arch Druidess

And now we have to wait another year for more episodes. I don't want to wait another year! :scream: :( :p

"Bite my shiny metal axe!"
:lol:
That was awesome. :D
 
I loved the whole season (excuse me, part...what is it with Netflix and these "parts" they're insisting on for seasons a year apart?).

The Godfather Part II came out 2 years after the original, Part III 16 years after that. Back to the Future Part II and Part III came out 4-5 years after the original BTTF. They're following the precedent of novels that are broken into "parts," or perhaps Shakespeare's history plays. It's done with film or TV series to suggest that the installments are segments of a single long story rather than separate stories, which is certainly true of Disenchantment, Groening's most serialized show to date.
 
The Godfather Part II came out 2 years after the original, Part III 16 years after that. Back to the Future Part II and Part III came out 4-5 years after the original BTTF. They're following the precedent of novels that are broken into "parts," or perhaps Shakespeare's history plays. It's done with film or TV series to suggest that the installments are segments of a single long story rather than separate stories, which is certainly true of Disenchantment, Groening's most serialized show to date.
Ummm...what?

I'm talking about multiple Netflix shows (this one, The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, I think another one but I'm blanking on it) that are being called parts of individual seasons. Netflix has referred to these groups of episodes as parts one and two of one season for those two parenthetical examples, not parts in lieu of seasons.
 
I'm talking about multiple Netflix shows (this one, The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, I think another one but I'm blanking on it) that are being called parts of individual seasons. Netflix has referred to these groups of episodes as parts one and two of one season for those two parenthetical examples, not parts in lieu of seasons.

I don't see them listed as "Season 1, Part 2," merely as "Part 2." So it's unclear. We won't know until they get a third portion and we see how they label it.

However, if they are being referred to as parts of a season, that may be literally true. "Season" can mean a production block, not just a broadcast block. There are cases where something that is produced as a single season is aired in two separate halves; indeed, Netflix does that with a number of its animated shows, like Voltron and Dragons: Race for the Edge. Syfy did it with a couple of production seasons of Eureka, airing them in halves about a year apart.
 
I'll probably re-watch the first.... group of episodes in their entirety before starting the new bunch of episodes, I remember liking it enough to do so plus it's been so long I barely remember a lot of details.
 
I don't see them listed as "Season 1, Part 2," merely as "Part 2." So it's unclear. We won't know until they get a third portion and we see how they label it.

However, if they are being referred to as parts of a season, that may be literally true. "Season" can mean a production block, not just a broadcast block. There are cases where something that is produced as a single season is aired in two separate halves; indeed, Netflix does that with a number of its animated shows, like Voltron and Dragons: Race for the Edge. Syfy did it with a couple of production seasons of Eureka, airing them in halves about a year apart.
That's how the press for both of the shows have described the "parts."
 
I think Disenchantment is at its best when it's moving the arc forward. Of the 10 episodes of the second season (or whatever) the first three and the last two move the story forward and that's when the show is at its best. The five episodes in between were more episodic and not as compelling.
 
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That's how I felt, too. Not only does he not seem to understand the fundamental issues (or even the purpose of The Problem with Apu), he doesn't even seem to have any interest in understanding the issues.

Fortunately, as Christopher already covered, Groening doesn't have as much direct involvement with Futurama and Disenchantment beyond the initial development (not far from what J.J. Abrams does with live television). Futurama was essentially David X. Cohen and Ken Keeler's show and Disenchantment is essentially Josh Weinstein and Bill Oakley's show. Hell, if a quick look at IMDb is to believed, he hasn't even directly written that much of The Simpsons and not since 1996.

If I were running The Simpsons, Apu would have been dumped after he got married, with Apu selling the store and having a long honeymoon, or inheriting a fortune from some rich uncle he knew nothing about, then retiring.
 
I finished the season last night. I think it was more consistent than season 1, pretty solid throughout. No particular low points stood out, though maybe there were fewer outstanding high points as well.

I did find it odd that when Bean was in Steamland, she was more impressed by the knight-cop's mechanical horse than by the fact that a woman could be a knight. That seemed out of character.

I wonder why people from Steamland want Zøg dead and I hope it's not something as mundane as forcing Dreamland out of ignorance and/or a simple power grab for Odval and the Arch Druidess

I bet it has something to do with the mystery they were teasing all season. The elves chose to help the Dreamlanders (and apparently chose to relocate to Dreamland and accept far more squalid conditions than in their home) because their representative noted evidence that some important secret was hidden under the castle. Later on, Bean discovered those Maruan symbols leading her around the castle. Then Derek and Elfo stumbled (literally) upon that sealed vault containing amphorae of some substance that mutated the tiny cycloctopus (what else would you call a one-eyed octopus?) into a ravenous giant.
 
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