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Discussion of Marvel Comics events since Civil War

crookeddy

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It's pretty undeniable that comics these days are pretty hard to get into - the crossover events make following your favorite character pretty difficult without having to buy every single comic out there because of the crossovers. I got into comics about 5 years ago, and used wikipedia to get the characters' backstory. However, that required lots of time, and effort to find the interesting bits.

What I'd like here is a kind of discussion, kind of reference point for the different events that have happened in the Marvel Universe starting with Civil War event. I'd also like people to mention their favorite graphic novels for the events discussed, so that people would be able to make decisions on what to buy if the event interests them.
 
One More Day is worse than Operation Barbarossa.

Pak's Incredible Hercules is incredibly awesome.*

Brubaker and Fraction's Iron Fist is good, but did not live up to its hype.*

No comic Marvel produces, and perhaps no comic Marvel could produce, is worth $4 a month to follow.

*From what I've read of the respective series, of course.
 
I really don't get all the praise for Hercules... It's mostly about a really smart kid right?
 
Indeed, and his divine, goofy, man-whore friend. I did oversell it a little, but it's good fun. It's like Giffen/deMatteis Justice League--but I admit just a little less so.

Which reminds me I need to be buying Booster Gold. We all need to be buying Booster Gold. Even for $4 a book.

And when I do so I shall pick up more Incredible Hercules.

Here are things about the post-Crisis, I mean Civil War Marvel Universe I forgot: JMS' Mighty Thor is supposed to be pretty decent too. But a lot less fun.

Brian Michael Bendis is overworked, overstretched, and so played.

The Dark Avengers look a lot cooler than they are. Something about the concept of the "Iron Patriot" really gets me in the jingo zone.

Brand New Day is worse than being locked in a room with nothing but the Left Behind novels and a packet of razor blades.
 
The Marvel cosmic stuff has been pretty good since Civil War (actually, the kick-off event "Annihilation" ran concurrent to Civil War). The best part of it was a reboot of The Man Called Nova in which they worked out this Knight Rider style dynamic between Rich Ryder and his K.I.T.T.-like armor / power engine.

The current event, "Thanos Imperative", is focused on some alternate reality stuff; I've enjoyed what I've read so far.
 
Do we consider One More Day/Brand New Day a worse spidey story then even the universally hated clone saga?
 
Brand New Day is worse than being locked in a room with nothing but the Left Behind novels and a packet of razor blades.

Why is this a bad thing? I'd get a lot of enjoyment out of disassembling those suckers, word by word. Better yet, re-editing them into something readable.
 
Oh, God yes. The Clone Saga didn't reify the notion of Peter Parker making a deal with Satan so he could live in his aunty's basement.
 
Brand New Day is worse than being locked in a room with nothing but the Left Behind novels and a packet of razor blades.

Why is this a bad thing? I'd get a lot of enjoyment out of disassembling those suckers, word by word. Better yet, re-editing them into something readable.
Fred Clark of Slacktivist has beat you to it, at least on the word by word exegesis--which, given how you nailed the premise, I suspect you might be aware of. :p

Clark's living up to his blog's name with his Left Behind Monday hiatus, though. :( His actual blogging is fine, but it's sooo depressing, and it was a lot better when he mixed it up with deconstructing those.

Okay, Brand New Day is worse than being a character in Left Behind. A female character.
 
Honestly I kind of enjoyed the clone saga lol... course I was still in my early teens at the time, but I liked the concept of Ben Reilly and starting out basically from scratch. It sort of helped form my opinion that there CAN be "legacy" super heroes. So you don't have to pull shit like OMD/BND to "keep the character young and relevant"

Just like I really really liked Kyle Rayner's Green Lantern and never really understood why people were so pissy about "bring Hal back!" I've read the newer Hal GL and honestly it's meh. Besides, Hal has been around since the late 50s. He had over 40 years, let some other guy take up the role. And no Guy didn't count. As cool as he is.

I also really LOVE the idea of the "long dead" Bucky taking on the mantle of Captain America. For once we have a Cap replacement that isn't a total jerkhole like USAgent.

I know some comics fans are really hidebound by having the characters basically remain the same forever. Same fans that have a fan orgasm when Iron Man goes back to an old classic armor even though it was like 30 some odd years since he last wore it. For me the "Classic" armor is the modular from the 90s or even the "coffee pot" armor that preceded it.

Heroic Age so far seems like a return to a bit more optimistic MU, BUT still has that annoying dark tinge to it. But honestly they need to re-age Peter. Why do we need "loser" Parker again?
 
Silvercrest said:
Actually, I had no idea about that. But great minds, etc. etc.

Highly, highly recommended reading. As a TVTroper puts it "Half the fun is trying to figure out whether blogger Fred Clark (a liberal Baptist with a journalism background) is more offended by Left Behind's disturbing theology or its atrocious writing."

Also one of the few evangelical Christians I've ever witnessed who 1)acts and think like a Christian, 2)is really hilarious, and 3)is perfectly rational. Maybe this is my own prejudice but it seems like a rare and precious combo. (See also: Linkara.)

On-topic: Marvel Zombies books appeal to a lower common denominator than Michael Bay movies. This may also be my own prejudice, because I sort of hate all zombie fictions that are not the first half of Shaun of the Dead.
 
^ He became a franchise. :lol:

I actually haven't been reading Hulk since WWH, but I know that they have drastically increased the number of Hulks and Hulk-like characters out there.

Besides Banner/Hulk and Jen Walters/She-Hulk, there is the Red Hulk and Red She-Hulk who are actually...

Thunderbolt Ross and his daughter Betty Ross
... the new Abomination, or "A-Bomb" who is actually...

Rick Jones

... and no less than THREE of Hulk's children.

Red Hulk will be joining the Avengers in issue #7.
 
^Agreed. In fact, if I hadn't dropped Spider-Man after One Last Day, I may have never started to pick up Hercules. An under-rated gem to be sure.
 
I find myself in a similar position where I need to try and keep abreast of all the happenings (and things tend to get confusing keeping all of it straight in my head).

While Prelude to Civil War and Civil War was happening, Hulk had been sent to Planet Hulk. You should check out the Prelude to Planet Hulk and Planet Hulk trades. Comparatively self-contained and enjoyable story-telling.

Meanwhile, Spider-Man was doing a pretty great run under JMS' direction. I would strongly recommend you reading all those trades (It's at least 50 or more issues). Start from the 'Coming Home' onwards and you should definitely read Brand New Day and One More Day - especially for how divisive the events in One More Day are.

I think the X-men were going thru some kinda Decimation, House Of M related event around that time. I'd recommend checking out the Astonishing X-Men which had Joss Whedon writing it for about 4 trades or so. It's important for the return of a character and even a romance amongst the characters but also cos most fans think it was a lot of fun.

Winter Soldier probably was happening at the same time. It's a rather dark telling of somebody important from Captain America's past and bringing things up to speed till the end of the Civil War saga.

After Civil War, things transition to World War Hulk (which is a more coherent event than Civil War but still quite a bit diffuse as compared to Planet Hulk). The 6-7 tie-in trades to World War Hulk are important since they will setup the characters of Incredible Hercules - which people have already recommended. So - from World War Hulk, you should transition into Incredible Hercules.

And in the broader run, the events from Civil War start leading into the Secret Invasion events. There is a pretty neat tie-in with Incredible Hercules which talks about the Skrull Gods. I quite enjoyed that.

After Secret Invasion, starts Dark Reign and Dark Avengers.

Meanwhile X-men are dealing with the Messiah storylines surrounding a new mutant child (called Hope) born after the Decimation storyline.

After working with Spider-Man, JMS' moved to Thor and Asgard returned back into existence. There's some good stuff there - fans liked Bill as a character. And there's something about seeing Asgard based in Oklahoma that really works.

Meanwhile, you can pick up the Skar - The Son of Hulk storylines and there's another son around. Once you are done with that, you will be ready for the Red Hulk storylines. While fans generally didn't seem to like it, a couple of the trades looked promising to me.

The Dark Reign ended with the Siege event - I think we are still awaiting the trades for that.

I hope this helps somewhat...
 
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