Discovery Size Argument™ thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by King Daniel Beyond, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Lord Garth FOI

    Lord Garth FOI Commander Red Shirt

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    Explain please
    I enjoy your posts because you put thought behind them and aren’t a Discovery schill.
     
  2. Tuskin38

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    What is there to explain? It was never called a capital ship in canon.

    Now it was never not called a capital ship, so really it's in limbo.

    The Connie in DSC is the 3rd largest ship in Starfleet so far, so I really wouldn't call it small.

    The Crossfield and Shepard are the only ones bigger, but for both of them it is because of the nacelles.
     
  3. Lord Garth FOI

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  4. Lord Garth FOI

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    Not according to that poster chart you shared. If you go by length perhaps you are correct. But by internal volume it’s decidedly on the small end.
     
  5. The Mighty Monkey of Mim

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    The facts:

    • Nothing was said about the Connie being "grand" or "luxurious" nor even "top of the line" (none of which would need to equate to "big" anyway) in any episode of DSC. Burnham suggested in "Lethe" (DSC) that getting posted to one might be advantageous in putting Cadet Tilly on an accelerated track to command.
    • There is evidence to support the Connie being roughly the same size in both DSC and TOS.
    • The Connie is not "the smallest ship in the fleet" in either.
    • DSC is not a reboot.

    I'm learning to enjoy these Size Arguments™ after all!:techman:

    -MMoM:D
     
  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well size isn't everything.
    Bigger doesn't mean better.
     
  7. Longinus

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    It is a bit weird that they enlarge the Connie so it wouldn't look so small next to DSC ships, but still design many classes of ships which are considerably bigger than it.
     
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  8. The Mighty Monkey of Mim

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    How many times does it have to be pointed out that the TOS shuttlebay shots and Drexler's cutaway from "In A Mirror, Darkly" (ENT) both already suggested a very similar size?

    (Apparently, at least one more time.)

    -MMoM:D
     
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  9. Longinus

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    What that had to do with anything I said? I'm not opposing upscaling the Connie, I just wish so many of the random background ships weren't bigger than it.
     
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  10. The Mighty Monkey of Mim

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    They didn't "enlarge the Connie" for DSC. That's what.

    -MMoM:D
     
  11. cultcross

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    Post not poster, please folks. Keep things civil and if something oversteps the line, notify don't retaliate.
     
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  12. Gonzo

    Gonzo Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Especially as it was used as a deep space explorer, five year missions require a lot of cargo and supplies as all well as personnel and equipment.
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    There are only two other designs bigger then it, the Shepard and Crossfield
     
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  15. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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  16. Tuskin38

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    Oh right I forgot about that silly anti-hotlinking feature

    I thought that only happened if you embed the image, oh well.

    They resized the Vulcan 'Cruiser' it's now 43.3 meters instead of the 142 that was on the booklet cover image released earlier this year.
     
  17. Kemaiku

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    You know, the Edison's saucer would be a good candidate for that huge one we see in 2009...
     
  18. publiusr

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    I hadn't thought of that. Maybe a kelvin-prise
     
  19. DEWLine

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    Ah!

    We have a name for that Vulcan ship class now: Solkar.

    Thank you!
     
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  20. Ronald Held

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    After the first ambassador to Earth from Vulcan?