Discovery Size Argument™ thread

[Tai]

Alright, agree to disagree.
From my point of view.
I build plastic models. I've build every amt/polar lights/mobius kit that has come down the pike. [...] However, with the Enterprises. They've been at a constant scale. I build in 1000 scale and 2500. In 2500 Amt has a ship set of all the Enterprises NX - E all in there accepted scales. Looks quite nice put together. Now with the Discoprise, at 480 meters .. When i put that in at 2500, its longer than the Excelsior, so basically hoses the whole ship set. [...] Most people don't care, and I only care because I want my plastic fleet to make sense. It can look like it does, don't care that they "redesigned" it. Just keep the size.

Same boat here. Agreed 100% and was quite frustrated with it.

This is my workaround:

https://imgur.com/a/PBUdg8q

 

[Rahul]

Same boat here. Agreed 100% and was quite frustrated with it.

This is my workaround:

https://imgur.com/a/PBUdg8q

This one is amazing!
It just makes so much sense, it's the size I'll keep for my headcanon as well!

(Except the Kelvin timeline stuff - there I'll go with the official numbers, because reboot and stuff...)

 

[Longinus]

This is my workaround:

https://imgur.com/a/PBUdg8q

This looks great!

 

[INACTIVERedDwarf]

Thats what I wish the sizes really were.

On a different topic, this video is quite interesting:

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[Tuskin38]

Obviously this won't be considered canon as it wasn't 'on screen', but I'll post it here anyways as a conversation maker

Source: http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/07/inside-star-trek-discovery-mirror-universe-at-sdcc/

 

[F. King Daniel]

Obviously this won't be considered canon as it wasn't 'on screen', but I'll post it here anyways as a conversation maker

Source: http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/07/inside-star-trek-discovery-mirror-universe-at-sdcc/

450 decks on the ISS Charon
USS DISCO MAX SPEED WARP 1431 YESSSSSSS

 

[Tuskin38]

USS DISCO MAX SPEED WARP 1431

Using the spore drive. Context man, context. Calm down.

Its base max warp speed is 8.

 

[DaveyNY]

450 decks seems just a bit excessive.

 

[Tuskin38]

450 decks seems just a bit excessive.

It was a big ship.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Using the spore drive. Context man, context. Calm down.

Its base max warp speed is 8.

Does not make it any less hilarious

 

[Tuskin38]

Does not make it any less hilarious

I don't see how it is funny at all.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't see how it is funny at all.

Mocking Discovery is always funny...?

 

[Kemaiku]

If warp 10 allows you to be everywhere in the universe at once, and the Spore drive took seconds to disappear and reappear (the 133 jump solution) then it should be slower...

 

[Tuskin38]

If warp 10 allows you to be everywhere in the universe at once, and the Spore drive took seconds to disappear and reappear (the 133 jump solution) then it should be slower...

Either a different warp scale, or they're ignoring Threshold.

 

[Kemaiku]

Either a different warp scale, or they're ignoring Threshold.

Even transwarp capped out about 85-100 factors. The point being if the Spore drive takes the same time to displace across kilometers (133 jumps) and solar systems (2-3 eps), then you can't give a linear speed estimate.

If it takes the same time to jump to Saturn as it does to say, plop down beside Destiny in the SGU universe, that's two wildly different speeds.

 

[ITDUDE]

It was a big ship.

If we conservatively assume that each deck is 2 meters tall on average, that's 1km (3,280 feet) in height! It was not even close to that tall. It maybe is 5x taller than discovery (eyeballing it) and Discovery is 74m tall (242 feet tall), extrapolated from 741m Discovery length (which is very arguable). So at very tallest, Charon is about 370m tall, which would make each deck 0.82 meters on average if there were really 450 of them. Soo.. no.

 

[Tuskin38]

Actual show dialogue said it only had 17 decks.

 

[ITDUDE]

I don't see how it is funny at all.

 

[F. King Daniel]

If it takes the same time to jump to Saturn as it does to say, plop down beside Destiny in the SGU universe, that's two wildly different speeds.

The only time there was any sensation of movement was the jump back from the mirror universe. Every other one was instantaneous.

 

[Kemaiku]

The only time there was any sensation of movement was the jump back from the mirror universe. Every other one was instantaneous.

And that's because the network was "injured". During the 133 jumps, the ship took a slight pause in the spore network before it reappeared. When they jumped while at warp (and that's just...annoying in itself) they skipped the rest of the warp flight to that star system with about the same momentary delay.

So I think they'd have to jump galaxies away (riding the network for "longer"/more branches of it) to give any real delay in the process. My point was that you can't have a speed estimate on something that has ~0 interval of travel nomatter where it goes.

Actually, did they ever imply a delay in Galactica's jump drive during the series?

Oh, and um, what happens if two ships with some kind of similar drive try to arrive at nearly the same point? say had Starfleet managed to equip several ships with the sporedrive and they rushed to a star system to render aid, are all the exit points in mushroom space the same?

Because I don't want to see what happens when starships start splinching.