Always?
Discovery Nominated for Peabody Award
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Always?
i'm living somewhere in between. i really don't like star trek: discovery, but i love star trek. so i'm here for it.
even it if doesn't get better, i'll probably still watch and tell you why it sucks after. but with love.
Yes...for everyone involved.
Is this common? I know there's always somebody online who will hate any black person who has a job and attack it as "affirmative action," but my sense is that their overlap with Trekdom is really small. (Because, um, have you watched Star Trek, Mr. Internet Troll?) Certainly around here, it seems to me most people are really hard on the crappy writing and direction (overwhelmingly brought to you by liberal white men) but have nothing but praise for a female-led cast that is, in every case, doing fantastic work with awful material.
It's like Voyager all over again. Voyager did not deserve Robert Duncan McNeill or Robert Beltran or Jennifer Lien, and (on the very rare occasions that their characters were develop in any meaningful way), it showed. Kate Mulgrew did an incredible job hiding Janeway's incredible week-to-week inconsistencies through sheer force of will, and anyone who thinks Jeri Ryan was just boobs (which is how the producers seemed to think of her) needs to go watch "Infinite Regress." Fantastic cast, squandered by a writers' room that never quite clicked.
Anyway, maybe there are a ton of racist Disco-haters out there and I don't know them. I've learned a lot of humility on that front, because I used to think there weren't really very many racists in my (now-former) Republican Party. (In my defense, my district -- that is, Republicans I actually know -- hates Trump and voted 65% for Rubio, with Cruz in second.) Turns out there are a ton of racists out there, just not in my social circles. Could be true for Disco fandom, too, I suppose.
(Sorry, I missed this post when it went up because I was working long days for a bit this week: )
The company that releases them, frankly, doesn't tell us enough about them for me to have a meaningful grasp of what it is they're measuring. I wrote a little bit about how "demand expressions" lines up with "total viewers" back in January, and the answer was, "not well." However, it is entirely possible that Discovery has a bunch of buzz, and Parrot Interactive seems to be the only game in town when it comes to measuring buzz (or "demand" or whatever they want to call it). So, in my view, @Vger23's reference to that buzz is entirely defensible, at least unless we get contradictory data from another source.
Here's my January post about it.
Yep.
Fifteen episodes, that's it so far. I'm surprised anyone would think a Star Trek fan wouldn't give it a shot and go down the path of telling them not to watch because they feel uncomfortable about their reaction. Has anyone been on the Voyager forum lately? Twenty years after the show went to air and guess what? It's critiqued. There are fans who watched seven seasons of 26 episodes enjoying the ability to discuss its disappointment to them. That's the nature of the beast.i'm living somewhere in between. i really don't like star trek: discovery, but i love star trek. so i'm here for it.
even it if doesn't get better, i'll probably still watch and tell you why it sucks after. but with love.
you know what else? i think i dislike voyager even more than discovery and i will still throw an episode on netflix every once in a while.
i'm definitely not going to stop watching or discovery any time soon.
I really enjoy DSC but not sure it deserves a Peabody just yet. I'd like to see it take more risks than it does before I'd want to hand it a prestigious award like that. But still, good for the creators! Good for the show! Hopefully it'll just push them to keep working hard and tell compelling stories.
And regarding this supposed tug-of-war between "DSC fans" and "the haters," I think we should be mindful not to confuse volume with numbers. The angriest people are the loudest, and the first to speak up.
And regarding this supposed tug-of-war between "DSC fans" and "the haters," I think we should be mindful not to confuse volume with numbers. The angriest people are the loudest, and the first to speak up.
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Thanks. I didn't see that; I do see a lot of folks on FB trying to defend STB's performance on the basis of Parrot's "demand expressions," which, as far as can be told, have nothing whatever to do with measuring the size of the audience or number of subscriptions purchased which Netflix can attribute to Trek.
Tell me when they win a Emmy. Like a disapproving old school Aristocratic dad whose child has brought home a B on their report card I refuse to acknowledge any award for a Trek show that isn't the best of the best. If this show wants my respect and the metaphoric example of me giving it a firm hand shake and 10 seconds of eye contact then it must do better!
Jason
Jason
Mostly just because it's a little more famous. The award shows go like this:
1 Emmy's
2 Golden Globes
3 MTV awards
4 Peabody
5 Hugo
Jason
So which awards that previous trek series have won are you willing to acknowledge?
None! They have all let the Trek family down. If "The Soprano's" family and the "Breaking Bad" family can be rewarded then so should "Discovery!" We watch our shows and supported them through thick and thin and what is our reward! Awards for special effects and makeup. None of the big rewards! "TOS" came close with Nimoy getting nominated back in the day but to then to see a pity nomination for TNG in it's final season, maybe it's worst season brought us great shame! Why can't "Discovery" be like all the other good shows that reward it's fans with a "Best show" nominations or a best actor or actress, award.
Jason
Because the folks doing the nominating don't think it's worthy.
Tell me when ANY hard sci fi show wins anything other than Fx, hair and make up nominations or wins.
Says who? The MTV awards are for music videos only and don't involve TV shows at all. The Peabody awards have a different criteria for nominations and wins, than any of the others listed.
I think the MTV awards actually award stuff like best movie kiss and best kick-ass fight and stuff like that. I think you might be getting some of their awards mixed up. I didn't even think MTV even plays music anymore. As for any hard sci-fi winning awards I am thinking not many if any. X-Files was pretty well honored back in it's day. Main actor of "Mr Robot" one a Golden Globes though I guess it's questionable if that counts as a sci-fi show. "The Leftovers" got some nod's from what I recall. Almost forgot but "Quantum Leap" also was pretty well honored. I wasn't around in the 60's but was "Twilight Zone" ever nominated for any Emmy's?
Jason
More than a few posters have been banned for racism and bigotry, even since Discovery started airing. So it happens. It seems to be more bigotry against LGBTQ people, including posters, than racism. But it happens, Trek fans aren’t immune from being bigots because the show preaches acceptance.