Yup, few franchises could keep a fan forum as vibrant for as long.
Discovery Nominated for Peabody Award
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Yup, few franchises could keep a fan forum as vibrant for as long.
I think it's a bit silly to generalize any fans who dislike Star Trek Discovery as 'trolling.' If that's the case, just based on the facebook and twitter alone, there's a significant amount of the fanbase 'trolling'.
This is a tricky situation because this show is playing with classic characters and concepts that existing Star Trek fans are already invested in, but handling them in a much different and quite divisive way. Trek fans voicing their criticism online is just as valid as those voicing praise for a show they like online.
I think the criticism will just amp up from here on out if they handle Pike. Spock and the Enterprise the same way they handled STD S1, so buckle up;
That being said, it shouldn't take away your enjoyment of the series for sure. STD definitely speaks to a specific audience and has it's defenders, so there's that.
What's your metric? A bold statement like "Trek is culturally irrelevant" needs to be supported by something other than dismissive snark.
There is a difference between not liking a show and going out of your way to attack people who do like the show.
Or disliking the groups and people represented in it
That's just bigotry.
Who'da thought?
I still would appreciate someone pointing me to a rating or statistic of the audience. I would like to compare how well or not Discovery is doing.
Quite often anyone with a different point of view to the those prominent in the 'landscape' is given a label. It's code for dismissing their views. I'm amazed at how often someone says - 'don't watch then'. That is both redundant and tedious. People watch and then decide whether they like it or not.I think it's a bit silly to generalize any fans who dislike Star Trek Discovery as 'trolling.' If that's the case, just based on the facebook and twitter alone, there's a significant amount of the fanbase 'trolling'.
This is a tricky situation because this show is playing with classic characters and concepts that existing Star Trek fans are already invested in, but handling them in a much different and quite divisive way. Trek fans voicing their criticism online is just as valid as those voicing praise for a show they like online.
I think the criticism will just amp up from here on out if they handle Pike. Spock and the Enterprise the same way they handled STD S1, so buckle up;
That being said, it shouldn't take away your enjoyment of the series for sure. STD definitely speaks to a specific audience and has it's defenders, so there's that.
There aren't any, which was my original point. Netflix don't release figures, as a matter of principle, and as far as i know, CBS All Access aren't either. The only ratings in the traditional sense we have are Canadian, plus some maximum numbers which can be inferred from subscription numbers to streaming services.
It is decidedly less tedious than listening to detractors who continuously expose themselves to a show and to fans who they do not like or agree with.
If you want to weigh tedium...I'd say the crowd who shows up to criticize, instigate and be generally negative about something they could simply ignore is far more tedious than the folks who question the motives of those who continue relentlessly with that behavior.
Just a thought...
There are plenty of posters here who are critical of DSC who bring something to discuss to the table. Others, not so much.
There's a difference between someone who wants the show to improve and someone who's just here to trash it. Once it's clear the show isn't for you and probably isn't ever going to be, why force yourself to watch? I stopped watching ENT after six episodes. Then, one week, I binged it almost a decade later. Why can't people dislike DSC (or outright hate it) do the same?
When I'm at work, I'm doing things I sometimes don't want to do. When I'm at home, I have the freedom to do whatever I want (short of breaking the law). Why would I actively want to watch something I can't stand? And why would someone else? Why would anyone else? "Just so I can have an opinion!" You've already formed it. "I want to stay up-to-date!" This isn't the news. It's not real. You don't need to stay up-to-date.
There's a difference between someone who wants the show to improve and someone who's just here to trash it. Once it's clear the show isn't for you and probably isn't ever going to be, why force yourself to watch? I stopped watching ENT after six episodes. Then, one week, I binged it almost a decade later. Why can't people dislike DSC (or outright hate it) do the same?
When I'm at work, I'm doing things I sometimes don't want to do. When I'm at home, I have the freedom to do whatever I want (short of breaking the law). Why would I actively want to watch something I can't stand? And why would someone else? Why would anyone else? "Just so I can have an opinion!" You've already formed it. "I want to stay up-to-date!" This isn't the news. It's not real. You don't need to stay up-to-date.
Let's debunk every single solitary measure or opinion that potentially leads to a conclusion different than my personal opinion! Because that's fun and makes me feel validated and correct, which is important to my self-esteem!!
Meh. I can't speak for others but when I critique I'm specific.
Yeah, like I said, I have no issue with that.
Oh, you think?
Why do you think CBS wisely decided to focus on the Trek fanbase rather than put DSC on broadcast? Of course it's the core Trek fanbase that loves this show and have ensured a second season.
The best thing about this approach is that any new fans that get pulled in will be gravy, but DSC isn't dependent on them in order to be successful.
