Discovery itself

[drt]

Dude, know your Star Trek history. The Discovery is based on the proposed Enterprise refit of the 1970s, as designed by the legendary Ralph McQuarrie. It's a fitting homage to what has come before.

As an aside, I wonder if the "Adam/McQuarrie-prise" was intended to be a refit like the Phase II/TMP ship, or if Planet of the Titans had happened it would have been intended to be how the Enterprise was always supposed to look (like with the TMP Klingons)?

 

[Kevin Wolff]

I love the ship. Yes it needs more surface details and better materials/texture mapping but that will be taken care of before launch. Something different but still rooted in the classic design is just what the show needs to set it apart.

Those opposing rings of windows mid-saucer are going to make for some nice interior shots and will help give the ship a sense of scale when crew are in the corridors rather than just that hallway feel. Seeing out the window and across to the other side of dish and into those windows where there's other crewmen, giving not only scale but a sense of a more populated ship.

Also, the way it is self-illuminated means the ship can be completely blacked out in deep space and still have an easily recognizable silhouette without a magical key light or the constant nebula backdrop. Self-illumation with lots of small lights will also help with scale like it did with the refit in TMP.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

As an aside, I wonder if the "Adam/McQuarrie-prise" was intended to be a refit like the Phase II/TMP ship, or if Planet of the Titans had happened it would have been intended to be how the Enterprise was always supposed to look (like with the TMP Klingons)?

That design was for Planet of the Titans and was rejected by the time they got to Phase2. Phase2 was a cheaper looking refit look that Andrew Probert took the rest of the way to the refit we know.

 

[BillJ]

That design was for Planet of the Titans and was rejected by the time they got to Phase2. Phase2 was a cheaper looking refit look that Andrew Probert took the rest of the way to the refit we know.

If one looks close at the artwork, you can see 'NCC-1701' on the rear of it. So, probably, a refit... or a complete reboot.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

If one looks close at the artwork, you can see 'NCC-1701' on the rear of it. So, probably, a refit... or a complete reboot.

In the 50-year mission vol1 they said that they thought an all-new design for the Enterprise was too much to sell at that time, that fans needed to know this was the same ship they love, which is why the TMP ship is a refit despite it being a total tear-down. It hit a lot of people hard when they destroyed the ship in ST3. Ron Moore said he took it hard, because the refit was (in narrative terms) the original ship, and now it was gone forever. Seems silly now, but I remember the launch of TNG and how many people stated emphatically that it was NOT the enterprise no matter what they called it.

 

[Mudd]

Am I the only one thoroughly disgusted by the fact that they simply dusted off a pre TNG enterprise D ship sketch and reused it for discovery?

Nope. I'm quite happy about it.

Using a real star trek ship would have been far far better. And besides there are SO MANY of canon ships that have never gotten much screen time, that they could have used anything say a Daedulus or hermes or saladin..

Those ships are no more "real" than the Adams/McQuarrie design, which is a great deal better looking than the Daedalus, Hermes or Saladin.

 

[Kemaiku]

Am I the only one thoroughly disgusted by the fact that they simply dusted off a pre TNG enterprise D ship sketch and reused it for discovery?

No, I think she's ugly as all hell too.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

I think she was a wexy, sexy beast. I can't wait to see the reworks

 

[RAMA]

I'd watch this

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

What you've seen was rushed-to-screen footage for the event, just like everyone else.

That doesn't change the fact that the core design is utter shit. No amount of touching up is going to change that fact.

 

[Mudd]

Except that it's not. Better than quite a few of the "modern Trek" designs.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

I like Discovery's, It's way better than the Enterprise D which I think is the worst Trek ship design.

 

[mos6507]

I'd watch this

It looks like a helium balloon. No thanks.

 

[eyeresist]

I just hope we also see a Daedulus ship on the show.

If we see a Daedelus, I hope it blows up.



KIRK : My God, what have I done?
McCOY: What you had to do. That thing was a f***ing eyesore.

 

[The Old Mixer]

So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to discover is...

 

[Kevin Wolff]

I think people were expecting a super-detailed amped up version of what we saw in the TNG era. But in Matt Jeffries original design he said the surface would be relatively detail-free since they don't want to go outside to fix stuff all the time. That goes against the current design trends, but then so did TOS when it came out.

And the TOS Enterprise had a very simple silhouette that some would say is elegant. I'm still shocked when I hear people choose the original of the stunning refit, but many do.
Perhaps the DSC design is a way of anchoring the show to this era by making the silhouette simpler again, while still adding present-day visual interest. And possibly just as important from a franchise perspective, to have room to grow.

I can't wait to see the interior. I think opinions will become even more polarized when we get to see the interior design, costuming and props. And of course, makeup.

 

[eyeresist]

I can't wait to see the interior. I think opinions will become even more polarized when we get to see the interior design, costuming and props. And of course, makeup.

Heavy eyeliner as part of the uniform?

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Heavy eyeliner as part of the uniform?

Kirk wore it. But I meant alien makeup and prosthetics.

 

[eyeresist]

I know. I was thinking of Gerry Anderson's series 'UFO'.

 

[RAMA]

It looks like a helium balloon. No thanks.

What?? I can help you invest in a pair of glasses.

RAMA