Discovery filmed in 2:1 aspect ratio

[jefferiestubes8]

Wow - they FILM in a modern cinematic format, but the audio quality for the CBS 'premier' streaming site is cinematic sound circa the 1950ies. I may actually just wait a year for the Blu-Ray release.

Yes while I do not expect CBSAA will upgrade their streaming audio to Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 Surround but at least can they go with a somewhat industry standard AC-3 Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround mix?
I will figure CBS will be mixing this series in Dolby 7.1 surround or even Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 as a deliverable for eventual Blu-ray and 4k UHD Blu-ray Home Video releases.

 

[shady12]

Someone on Facebook (yeah, I know) swears All-Access does DD 5.1 on Roku and Apple TV. I did the trial to test myself on Android TV and it was craptacular stereo.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

So many people I know stretch everything on their TV so they might not even notice.

Years ago, a friend of mine was one of the earlier consumers to buy the wider screen (16:9 -ish) TVs that are the norm today. However, most of the stuff that was on TV was still in 4:3.

This friend of mine had an aversion to the black bars (which in this case would have been on the sides of the 4:3 image on the 16:9 TV), so he set the TV so that the broadcast image would "fit" the TV -- which stretched the edges of the 4:3 images, which made watching a 4:3 show like watching one of those funhouse mirrors where everyone looked short and fat.

My friend was so proud of the fact that his TV provided him with the technology get rid of those black bars that I didn't have the heart to tell him that I couldn't stand the sideways-stretched image.

 

[m.lp.ql.m]

I watched the entire series of Star Wars: The Clone Wars which was in 21:9, I'm used to bars.

Bars? You mean the Mos Eisley Cantina? :P

 

[Kor]

Bah, I'm going to turn on the zoom so the picture fills my TV.

Kor

 

[Galaxy]

Bah, I'm going to turn on the zoom so the picture fills my TV.

Kor

Well, at least zooming is better then stretching.

 

[m.lp.ql.m]

I'm going to zoom my picture OUT so I have black bars on all four sides. That way, people will think I'm a true videophile.

 

[Ovation]

Well, at least zooming is better then stretching.

They're both pretty bad ideas. But as long as individuals do it with their TVs, I don't care. What's unacceptable is for the delivery medium to have an altered aspect ratio (with rare exceptions) hard coded so that everyone gets an altered picture. Cable movie channels often do this (zoom 2.35:1 films to "fill" the TV--it's why I refuse to subscribe to them). Give people a choice.

 

[dinzy]

Someone on Facebook (yeah, I know) swears All-Access does DD 5.1 on Roku and Apple TV. I did the trial to test myself on Android TV and it was craptacular stereo.

This audio thing can't be. It just cannot be. Stereo on the first new Trek in over 10 years? They must be planning to upgrade the audio for the roll out. Netflix will certainly have good 5.1 audio. Most of us do not plan to watch this on a phone or tablet.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that when they did the "new" remastered edition of TNG, they did some cropping to the top and/or bottom of the picture to help make it fit the (approx.?) 16:9 aspect ratio.

I've never read anywhere that they actually DID crop the picture, but when I compare a broadcast of TNG in 16:9 to a broadcast of the same episode in 4:3, there is some cropping that is evident.

 

[Noname Given]

Well, at least zooming is better then stretching.

Not really (unless you enjoy heads being cutoff at the forehead or not seeing a chin. )

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that when they did the "new" remastered edition of TNG, they did some cropping to the top and/or bottom of the picture to help make it fit the (approx.?) 16:9 aspect ratio.

I've never read anywhere that they actually DID crop the picture, but when I compare a broadcast of TNG in 16:9 to a broadcast of the same episode in 4:3, there is some cropping that is evident.

Yes they did.

 

[Galaxy]

Not really (unless you enjoy heads being cutoff at the forehead or not seeing a chin. )

Personally, I would prefer Picard's head being cutoff opposed to him being turned into Jabba the Hut.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I never understood how 2:1 didn't become the standard for everything decades ago. I mean, besides being the perfect balance between cinematic mise en scene and practicality, the number itself also has the benefit of not seeming to be completely arbitrary.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Personally, I would prefer Picard's head being cutoff opposed to him being turned into Jabba the Hut.

Or just watch a 4:3 TV show in 4:3, even on the widescreen TV.

If you have, say for example, a 50-inch 16:9 TV, then watching a 4:3 show on that TV would be like watching it on on old-style 38" diagonal 4:3 TV.

I see absolutely no reason to stretch out the 4:3 image just so there are no bars; just ignore the bars on the sides of the picture the same way we used to ignore edges of our 4:3 TVs on the sides of the picture. The un-stretched picture is still larger than what most of us were watching before the widescreen TV s came along.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I never understood how 2:1 didn't become the standard for everything decades ago. I mean, besides being the perfect balance between cinematic mise en scene and practicality, the number itself also has the benefit of not seeming to be completely arbitrary.

Thank you, Mr. Monk!

Edit to add:
If 16:9 is considered arbitrary, why would 16:8 (i.e., 2:1) be any less arbitrary?

 

[BeatleJWOL]

when I compare a broadcast of TNG in 16:9 to a broadcast of the same episode in 4:3, there is some cropping that is evident.

That's the fault of whoever's broadcasting then. The Blu-rays are 4:3, no cropping. There might have been some reframing in comparison to the SD original, but the masters are not cropped that I know of.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

That's the fault of whoever's broadcasting then. The Blu-rays are 4:3, no cropping. There might have been some reframing in comparison to the SD original, but the masters are not cropped that I know of.

Thanks. I admit I do not have the Blu-rays. Are they done in 4:3?
I was going by the 16:9 TV broadcast compared to the 4:3 TV broadcast.

 

[Kor]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that when they did the "new" remastered edition of TNG, they did some cropping to the top and/or bottom of the picture to help make it fit the (approx.?) 16:9 aspect ratio.

I've never read anywhere that they actually DID crop the picture, but when I compare a broadcast of TNG in 16:9 to a broadcast of the same episode in 4:3, there is some cropping that is evident.

I dunno, TNG remastered on blu ray sure looks like 4:3 to me.

Or just watch a 4:3 TV show in 4:3, even on the widescreen TV.

If you have, say for example, a 50-inch 16:9 TV, then watching a 4:3 show on that TV would be like watching it on on old-style 38" diagonal 4:3 TV.

I see absolutely no reason to stretch out the 4:3 image just so there are no bars; just ignore the bars on the sides of the picture the same way we used to ignore edges of our 4:3 TVs on the sides of the picture. The un-stretched picture is still larger than what most of us were watching before the widescreen TV s came along.

Except that my Netflix setup absolutely does not allow me to watch a 4:3 show in true 4:3. I either have to stretch, or zoom.

Kor

 

[{ Emilia }]

They're seriously broadcasting TNG in 16:9?

 

[BeatleJWOL]

They're seriously broadcasting TNG in 16:9?

BBC America was broadcasting the SD episodes in some kind of zoomed in ratio, but when they started showing the remastered episodes, it was 4:3

I have no idea who's bastardizing TNG into 16:9 tho.