I would just like to chime in and say that although I personally abhor the Orville I do not begrudge anyone who enjoys it. And just because you like something I hate doesn't mean you had bad taste, we just have DIFFERENT taste. The only time I'll get upset and admittedly a little defensive is when people go completely tribalistic on it and it becomes a versus thing *glares at thread title*. I want to both to be successful and to people not fight over it.