Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Jedi_Master, May 18, 2017.

  1. Tesophius

    Tesophius Captain Captain

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    I'm amused by the concern for 1/10 votes when half of this forum is voting 8/10+ for every STD episode since the beginning no matter how shitty it is :lol: IMHO it's equally as invalid
     
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  2. MakeshiftPython

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    It's a good show, and a lot of folks enjoy it, so an 8 or higher is not unreasonable.
     
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  3. Prax

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    And there's the guys that give every episode a 10.
    Gotta balance it out.

    Some people think it's a good show.
    Some people think it's the best thing since sliced bread.
    Some people think it's okay.
    Some think it's bad.
    And some think it's the worst thing since smallpox.
     
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  4. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

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    Haters gonna hate, and then there's the opposite.

    And then there's me in the middle, that hasn't rated any episode past 8, but overall finds it more intriguing than where TNG, VOY, and ENT were in their first season.

    Easpecially the abysmal first season of TNG. Sooooooooo corny those early episodes. So dull.
     
  5. Serveaux

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    I don't think I ever gave an STD episode a "1" - or a "7" for that matter.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    I don't vote ;)
     
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  7. eschaton

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    This thread has gone in a weird direction. I will say though I don't understand the concept of being a "good fan" of something by not criticizing it. It's applying the "logic" of sports fandom (something I've never understood - how does someone decide to like a team anyway?) and pouring it into a TV show, which very clearly is not an animate entity.

    IMHO the best fans offer constructive criticism to whatever they like, because they want it to improve, not cheerleading.
     
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  8. MakeshiftPython

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    Yes. I think it's more fair to approach the show on its own terms and judge it from there. Look at what's it's going for and determine if you think it's succeeding at it. The kind of criticism that's nonsense to me is folks like Marsh claiming the show is doing something wrong by not giving focus to that helmsman with the eye bracket.
     
  9. Mechanoid1

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    So in other words if someone thinks the show is BAD, and a lot of folks also agree, so a two or lower is not unreasonable.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    It's nice to actually hear the rationale behind the rating, otherwise it does come across as unreasonable.
     
  11. eschaton

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    Most people really do seem to grade on a curve much different than my own. I mean, for example, I like Deep Space 9 a lot - I think it's the best Trek show overall. But there were probably only around five perfect 10 shows across the entire show, and I'd probably rate less than a quarter of episodes an eight or better.

    An eight doesn't mean an episode is a B basically, it means an episode is way, way above average, but still has a few flaws.
     
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  12. Refuge

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    Well it's a timing thing, lol :whistle: I haven't watched any Orville and would love to. However I don't vote Discovery until I've seen it. It gets what it deserves from me, lol.
     
  13. MakeshiftPython

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    That would be unreasonable, because I say so.
     
  14. Mechanoid1

    Mechanoid1 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I understand sir. You out rank me. LOL
     
  15. Infern0

    Infern0 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    IMO every episode of Discovery has been at least a 7/10. I'm really enjoying it.
     
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    1987 internet didn't have the World Wide Web, but it had Usenet newsgroups. It wasn't as accessible as the Web, but TNG was very much savaged by some TOS purists.
     
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    Oh god, some of the old Usenet stuff...

    By 1990, when I started to get involved in online stuff, there were three or four private subscription networks that had active sf and Star Trek sections where fans interacted with people who worked on various shows and with other writers. Compuserve, GEnie, Prodigy...
     
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  18. Bgt

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    hah!!
    scary thing.. today I enjoyed STD :eek::)
     
  19. zar

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    :guffaw:

    46 episodes. 7 seasons.

    http://scriptsearch.dxdy.name/?page=results&query=({series|tng,}) and ({speaker|gates,})

    Forty-six.

    http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Gates#Appearances

    :guffaw:

    In case you missed it, that's 46 episodes.
     
  20. Ragnarok

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    I like Discovery, but the costumes and the inside of the ship look better on the Orville.
     
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