So Veronica Hart will be perhaps taking a place similar to Marco Palmieri or Margaret Clark in plotting the course of the novels?
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No, she's several levels above that. She'd be in charge of CBS's overall global brand development strategy for every aspect of Star Trek, with the novels just being one small slice of the pie. It sounds like an expansion of the work John Van Citters does as the head of merchandising/licensing for CBS (JVC is the guy who coordinates with our editors at Pocket and approves and continuity-checks our novel outlines), only more tightly focused on just Trek rather than CBS productions as a whole, and ramping up the efforts to advance Trek as a brand and a multimedia franchise in the real world. As the article says:
It sounds like this is mainly about adding more facets to the overall franchise alongside the novels, comics, games, etc. that already exist, and probably ramping up the promotional machinery for all of that stuff, novels included. Perhaps there'd be more coordination and cross-promotion between all those different things, but how or whether that would affect the actual story content of the novels remains to be seen.
Interestingly the novels have moved the stories of DSN, VGR, TNG and ENT forward a fair bit, especially DSN. The thing with that series is a lot of the characters have been scattered a bit and moved on, but the idea of Sisko as Captain of a Galaxy class vessel is strangely appealing.
There is no overarching media continuity like Star Wars, so the comics have taken the future of the TNG in slightly different directions, different IDW titles even contradicting each other! TNG: HIVE, a comic set shortly after Nemesis, showed the final battle with the Borg, a different one to the famous game-changer DESTINY; while there's also COUNTDOWN that is part of the Online canon - another medium, another timeline.
I have no doubt that at the end of this year or going into 2020 they will release tie-in books and comics to show more of the backstory to that show, possibly featuring familiar characters that won't appear on screen. Yes Kirsten Beyer is a writer for CBS now but I doubt they will want to stick to the Novelverse, but we could be surprised!
I finished Desperate Hours. While the story was nothing special, I loved it for the Early Tie-in Wierdness, perhaps showing us what was envisioned for the characters several showrunners ago. It's kind of the TNG: Ghost Ship of Discovery.
First, Michael and Spock barely know each other. They do not have the brother/sister relationship or backstory of being raised together that they do in season 2. Michael seems to consider Sarek and Amanda to be carers rather than parents.
Saru's home planet is called Kelpia, they're an underground people and the names if their predators is entirely different (although has slipped my mind)
The use of done weapons is illegal in the Federation, ad has been since World War III. The show would of course use a drone bomb in the finale to season 1, and whole drone fighter fleets in the season 2 finale.
Number One/Commander Una is vegetarian, when she eats a cheeseburger in season two (although replicated... And with such technology, being vegetarian may not mean what it once did)
Captain Pike is drawn from the harsher elements of the character in "The Cage", a by-the-book officer happy to shoot first and ask questions later, as opposed to the warm father to the galaxy from the show. And this Pike is younger than Georgiou, whereas the TV versions went drinking at the academy together.
The very best part was Spock's thoughts at the end, when he realises both he and Michael were disappointments to Sarek. Brilliant.
A very fascinating read.
First, Michael and Spock barely know each other. They do not have the brother/sister relationship or backstory of being raised together that they do in season 2. Michael seems to consider Sarek and Amanda to be carers rather than parents.
Saru's home planet is called Kelpia, they're an underground people and the names if their predators is entirely different (although has slipped my mind)
The use of done weapons is illegal in the Federation, ad has been since World War III. The show would of course use a drone bomb in the finale to season 1, and whole drone fighter fleets in the season 2 finale.
Number One/Commander Una is vegetarian, when she eats a cheeseburger in season two (although replicated... And with such technology, being vegetarian may not mean what it once did)
Captain Pike is drawn from the harsher elements of the character in "The Cage", a by-the-book officer happy to shoot first and ask questions later, as opposed to the warm father to the galaxy from the show. And this Pike is younger than Georgiou, whereas the TV versions went drinking at the academy together.
The very best part was Spock's thoughts at the end, when he realises both he and Michael were disappointments to Sarek. Brilliant.
A very fascinating read.
Yes - Season one is very careful to present this idea of Michael as WARD and not daughter which is largely ignored in Season 2.
Don't even get me started on season two's retcons of the Kelpian premise.
It's the Discovery show that ignored the original intent for Pike here, not this novel or other pre-DISC tie-in fiction. I highly doubt Roddenberry intended for Pike to be around 52 as of the Cage (or they would have cast him as such for the the Cage), which is what Discovery ended up establishing him being.
The worst thing is that drinking line and the massive retcon to Pike's age was entirely unnecessary. Georgiou could have been Pike's favorite and closest teacher from the Academy and the leadup to Pike deducing her Mirror counterpart wasn't the real Georgiou would have been the same.
Alex Kurtzman said in an interview that DiscoPike was closer to Bruce Greenwood's version than Jeffrey Hunter's. I guess they just imported that age retcon to the prime universe.
He could have been lying.
That could be so, and the fact that Mirror Georgiou didn't dispute Pike's story would have led to Pike's deduction that she was an impostor.
You're a decade off. Anson Mount was 45 when season 2 was filmed, and if Pike were the same age, then he would've been 42 as of "The Cage." By comparison, if Pike had been the same age in 2258 that Bruce Greenwood was in ST '09, then he would've been 46 in "The Cage." Jeffrey Hunter was 38 when "The Cage" was filmed. So Mount is literally the middle ground where Pike's age is concerned.
The drone fighters in season 2 belonged to Section 31 which earlier in the season had already been established to be using an illegal minefield around their HQ, so it's not particularly scandalous to think they'd also be using illegal drone fighters.
The drone bomb in season 1 is a bit harder to wave away. Though given that mission was genocide approved by the Federation Council, maybe they also allowed dismissal of other laws for the sake of that mission?
Pike's personnel record was on screen and he has no canon birthdate.
So the Saints of Imperfection dialogue can be ignored in favor of an age for Pike that makes sense - such as the actor's age - just like Mendez's comments in the Menagerie have always been ignored.
That's what I'm doing.
Because I just don't buy Pike in his 50s in the Cage or pushing 70 in the Menagerie.Pike pulling a fast one on Mirror Georgiou by making up a fictional Academy background and thus deducing her being imposter (as later confirmed in his last conversation with her) works out nicely.Pike's personnel record was on screen and he has no canon birthdate.
So the Saints of Imperfection dialogue can be ignored in favor of an age for Pike that makes sense - such as the actor's age - just like Mendez's comments in the Menagerie have always been ignored.
That's what I'm doing.
We’ve already had Star Trek establish the extended lifespan making, effectively, fifty the new thirty - the Uxbridges in TNG’s The Survivors were said to be in their eighties while played by actors in their fifties. Even excusing the century difference, it really doesn’t make it that much of a stretch for me that Pike would be in his sixties by The Menagerie. Even adds to the “what am I doing” crisis he was going through in The Cage, having him staring the on-paper midpoint of his life in the eye.
I don’t really have a problem with Pike now skewing older - if anything, I’m more than willing to call Discovery’s version the “definitive” version, considering he had the most screentime of any.
I don’t really have a problem with Pike now skewing older - if anything, I’m more than willing to call Discovery’s version the “definitive” version, considering he had the most screentime of any.
Kirk was having a crisis about his age when he was in his early 50s in the TOS films, so I don't see that Star Trek established 50 as the new 30. And I see Cage Pike as a relatively young Captain having a hard time adjusting to being the one ultimately responsible for a crew, not a man having a midlife crisis. Further, part of the horror of the Menagerie was supposed to be, IMO, that Pike was still a rather young man - "big, handsome man, vital, active."
So aging Pike up to a 50-something in the Cage doesn't work for me.
YMMV, obviously,.
So aging Pike up to a 50-something in the Cage doesn't work for me.
YMMV, obviously,.
Did the drones belong to S31? Number One just says they were Starfleet prototypes she took possession of.