Spoilers Discovery and the Novelverse - TV show discussion thread
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Holy fucking shit count me in!
Relax. Breathe regular.
All I can probably say at this point without getting into trouble is that this wasn't a surprise.
Maybe it's a good thing after all that the CBS novel-license took so long to get renegotiated. They might still have time in-universe to course-correct in the books before Hobus happens, and line things up with this new show. Then again, maybe not. Also... Bad Robot would have to contractually sign off on any such references to Hobus, so that will be a boilerplate legal-issue, too.
EDIT: Somehow just now noticed Dayton's posts...very cool, then. If he's not worried, I'm not worried.
EDIT: Somehow just now noticed Dayton's posts...very cool, then. If he's not worried, I'm not worried.
Given Dayton's comment and the Litverse continuing unimpeded in 2019 (This would have been the perfect time for them to reboot the novel continuity, and yet...) I surprisingly think we'll be fine. I didn't think this would go well, but to quote another franchise, "This isn't going to go the way you think". Whoda thunk it.
Will it? If it is 20 years after NEM (though I don't see where you're getting that number), that would be 2399. The current novel timeline is only in 2386. That's a pretty big gap. Okay, the novels have made some major changes that a new series might not acknowledge, but if it comes to that, maybe there could be room to reverse those changes. I'm not saying I'd want to see the Borg resurrected, for instance, but if it had to be done, it probably could be. Remember how DC Comics reversed all its post-ST III changes to flow into ST IV? It was kind of awkward, but they did it.
Okay, granted, things like Picard and Beverly marrying and having a son might be harder to reconcile. But I do wish people would stop assuming that Star Trek and Star Wars tie-ins work the same way. That has never been the case before, so why should it start now?
They have 13 years in-universe to play with and correct anything they need to make line up with the show. Right now I can only think of two things that would be hard to fix:
- Ages/names/genders of kids.
- A visit to the station formerly known as Terok Nor.
(Heck, you might even be able to fix the first one with time travel. THANKS BARRY.)
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I don't think his comment had anything to do with how the tie-ins for each work, but was instead referring to a recent example of a later canonical work coming in and making major changes to the history, rendering the tie-ins incompatible.
You're right that the authors do have time to make changes to the universe to line up better with what we see in the show. (I never thought I'd be grateful for the books lagging behind real time!)
I got the number from Sir Patrick's address at STLV
Commenter Ben Grimm over at BirthMoviesDeath has an interesting theory about what this show could be:
"My guess: Ambassador Picard dealing with the fallout of the explosion of Romulus. Single story, non-episodic, leads to the Romulans joining the Federation (or at least becoming allies) and a hopeful, peaceful future."
"My guess: Ambassador Picard dealing with the fallout of the explosion of Romulus. Single story, non-episodic, leads to the Romulans joining the Federation (or at least becoming allies) and a hopeful, peaceful future."
The novels are advertisements for the TV shows. They will follow the lead of whatever the TV shows do. If that means having to throw away the current continuity, they will. Much like Disney tossed the EU for Star Wars.
SWTOR is still on going and it is Legends. Mind you that is a video game that makes lots of money.
STO will probably keep going even if this series contradicts it.
Isn't the Old Republic like 4,000 years before the movies?
Yes.
Star Trek Online will likely keep going, but its continuity will be screwed as the new material will likely have to conform to the TV series.
(Posts before reading the last 4 hours of messages)
I’m kind of terrified to see what is in this thread.
Terrified and excited.
I’m kind of terrified to see what is in this thread.
Terrified and excited.
Their continuity is already a time-travel, multi-universe snarl so people can have fun with the JJ-verse and Discovery, they won't have much trouble adapting. The joy of storytelling being even more subordinate to gameplay in an MMORPG than it would be even in a single-player game.