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Disco's version of TOS/TAS: Differences

Columbia House released all the episodes on Beta similar to how they released TOS on VHS. I’ve got “The Menagerie” and WNMHGB/Mudd’s Women on Beta.

Also just saw a trailer for DIS Season 2 on SPACE, and Spock looks like Mirror Spock wit beard and moustache, plus Pike and the Enterprise crew is wearing the DIS uniform! So they couldn’t have the Enterprise wear “The Cage” uniform? (So that means Starfleet will revert to the Cage uniforms in 10 years for 2265 and then update the uniforms in 2266 and introduce the mini-skirt for the female crew members!)
Apparently, but the the uniforms used by the enterprise crew is discovery season 2 are different than the discovery season 1 uniform. The new ones have sleeve rank insignia instead of badge rank and don’t look like tracksuits
 
Apparently, but the the uniforms used by the enterprise crew is discovery season 2 are different than the discovery season 1 uniform. The new ones have sleeve rank insignia instead of badge rank and don’t look like tracksuits
Only different in colour and rank. The seems/pattern are identical.

It's a pallet swap.
 
Apparently, but the the uniforms used by the enterprise crew is discovery season 2 are different than the discovery season 1 uniform. The new ones have sleeve rank insignia instead of badge rank and don’t look like tracksuits
Where’d you see that? I was just looking at the photos for “Brother”, none of the DIS uniforms have sleeve rank, whereas Pike’s banana yellow uniform has the sleeve rank (and what’s with the front zipper?
 
Where’d you see that? I was just looking at the photos for “Brother”, none of the DIS uniforms have sleeve rank, whereas Pike’s banana yellow uniform has the sleeve rank (and what’s with the front zipper?
Re-read the post you quoted. They were talking about Pike's/Enterprise uniform.

Also the Discovery uniforms have the zipper as well.
 
Where’d you see that? I was just looking at the photos for “Brother”, none of the DIS uniforms have sleeve rank, whereas Pike’s banana yellow uniform has the sleeve rank (and what’s with the front zipper?
Front zippers are easier to use than back zippers.
 
Where’d you see that? I was just looking at the photos for “Brother”, none of the DIS uniforms have sleeve rank, whereas Pike’s banana yellow uniform has the sleeve rank (and what’s with the front zipper?
Yeah sorry my words were a little confusing. That’s what I meant him and his crew (in the trailer his number 1 and blue shirt next to him and the red shirt behind him) the rank insignia is on the sleeve. In fact it looks like the same type of sleeve insignia starfleet uses in the alternate reality
 
Yeah but it still looks like tracksuits. I guess better than people thinking it looks like pajamas. lol
As opposed to the full bodysuits or weird sweater things Wesley wore? Future fashion has rarely made sense, especially in Star Trek. A zipper is the least of their concerns, since it is a practical fashion closure.
 
Front zippers are easier to use than back zippers.
Well in “The Cage” and TOS the zippers sure were hidden a lot better (sure in HD you can see them on the shoulders). Don’t forget that Gene Roddenberry wanted to portray a future were clothes were held together with something futuristic that was not visible to the eye.
 
Well in “The Cage” and TOS the zippers sure were hidden a lot better (sure in HD you can see them on the shoulders). Don’t forget that Gene Roddenberry wanted to portray a future were clothes were held together with something futuristic that was not visible to the eye.
That's great that GR wanted that. But, the trend for Trek has had zippers, and they are highly functional. I don't see any problem with keeping them around, much less hiding them.
 
As opposed to the full bodysuits or weird sweater things Wesley wore? Future fashion has rarely made sense, especially in Star Trek. A zipper is the least of their concerns, since it is a practical fashion closure.
Hey it is isn’t the zipper that makes it look like a tracksuit. In fact I like zippers in uniforms sometimes. I like the ENT uniform that have zippers, hey they are kind of like uniforms nasa would use. It’s the fact that discoverys uniforms over all look like tracksuits. By the way just to affirm I like zippers. While I don’t think they should be in Every uniform they are very practical and can look nice.
 
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That's great that GR wanted that. But, the trend for Trek has had zippers, and they are highly functional. I don't see any problem with keeping them around, much less hiding them.
What trend? For Enterprise it made sense as it was set a century before TOS. And on TNG, DS9 & Voyager the zippers were again hidden or extremely small so that the front of the uniform coat looked very smooth. Pike’s uniform in DIS looks like it has part of a Cardassian uniform in it with that big zipper.
 
What trend? For Enterprise it made sense as it was set a century before TOS. And on TNG, DS9 & Voyager the zippers were again hidden or extremely small so that the front of the uniform coat looked very smooth. Pike’s uniform in DIS looks like it has part of a Cardassian uniform in it with that big zipper.
The trend that uniforms can be opened from the front, something a bit unusual for the TOS era, but highly common in TNG going forward. And, regardless of GR's intention, the zippers are still apparent. Or, they are to me, and I never bought in to the "magical closure" that held the uniform together.
 
We want zippers!
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If the Pike uniform applies the TOS colour scheme to the Disco uniforms, the screen test is the same uniform with TMP colours.
 
I've been reading "So Say We All" and this was literally Ron Moore's and David Eick's foundational premise for nuBSG. They were so burnt out on The Template of Berman-era Trek, they basically created the entire show as a f-u. Fascinating read.

While I haven't read that book, that much was very clear from BSG the show itself: It was essentially the anti-Star Trek Star Trek. Pretty much every concious decision was the exact opposite: Flawed characters, the bridge not focused on a big screen, a mission briefing room instead of a ready-room, a highly hirarchycal crew structure...
But at the same time, they (unintentionally) carried over a lot of Star Trek stuff: It's not like, say, "Lost in Space", it's clearly an alternate, hyper-realistic take on a Star Trek-like premise.
And I loved it!

That being said: I think the main reason it worked on BSG was because it WASN'T Star Trek, but it's OWN, individual IP. All the stuff they did on BSG would have been greatly out of place in a new Star Trek show. Ironically, I think the way to "update" Star Trek is probably closer to what JJ. Abrams did. He preserved a lot of the "siliness", wacky adventures, colors, quirky characters. Really, the only reason I didn't like his reboot series is that J.J. Abrams can't think of an original story or arc or themes if his life depended on it. But all his production and scene direction choices were actually really, really good.


The irony in all of that being, that I deeply love BSG. And don't really care for JJ Abrams reboot Trek. But that I still, at the same time, think that any new Star Trek show should have been much closer in style to the J.J. Abrams movies, but instead they tried to ape BSG, which IMO didn't really work for Trek.

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Found it interesting the early screen-test uniforms had ribbed collars like the pilot-era and of course the muted color scheming. (photo of early Saru makeup test)

Man, I'm so glad that's not what we ended up with.... Really, the final Saru we got is actually one of my favourite Star Trek aliens already, and one of the reasons why I think the showrunners overall do "get" Star Trek, even though they wrote a lot of crap scripts during the first season.

But seeing this? Great design for an alien of the week. But I can't imagine that make-up being applied to a functioning recurring character on the show at all...
 
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As of ST: "The Escape Artist", "I, Mudd" would likely play out diffetently since Starfleet is aware of Harry Mudd operating androids, and already has several of them in their custody.
 
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