Right, the virus can make them more human-ish, but not the exact identity / genetic duplicate / able to trick scans product that Tyler was.
Disco's version of TOS/TAS: Differences
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The Augment virus is just fracking stupid and the result of some C-rate writers who needed a paycheck. Can we all agree on that and ignore it, please?
I will never understand the amount of people who love it. The whole thing was stupid and messed with s much trek history and makes everyone from TNG era ignorant of base history
How dare you
Klingons have always had cloaks. Now.
If the 3rd movie (TSFS) had stuck with Romulans as bad guys Klingons would never get cloaks, or Bird of Prey spaceships.
Yup... and Klingons could be reintroduced in V and VI with little changes. Another reason would have to be given for Kirk's hatred, though.
I'm quite versed in Trek lore, and think I got every single other reference in your post, but damn, this whole paragraph is confusing and gibberish to me. (Not anything you did.... just..... totally not getting any of the references..... so confused... .lol)
Relics?
Wrong ship, in what way? Other then not knowing which refit/varient was asked for by registry number (which can be explained with the computer inferring from context what Scotty wanted.)
Its a shame the fan film guidelines shut down full length episodes - I would have loved to see a fan outfit begin refilming the entirety of Discovery, with the aesthetics of TOS. I've long wanted to see The Wrath of Khan in a TOS skin (ie, removing TMP from canon and returning weight to Morrow's line about the E's age, showing the Reliant in a TOS form, etc.)
They should have just had Donatu V and Binary Stars be the same incident....
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Didn't say that. All I said was, he didn't have to be a subject matter expert on the topic simply because he was genetically-engineered himself.
But being a Federation/Starfleet doctor, you’d think he’d know.
Ultimately the fault lies with DS9 for not making the decision in Trials and Tribbleations to just have Worf look like a TOS Klingon when they went back in time. Yes, it allowed for some amusing lampshading, but it meant that it was explicitly noted onscreen that the makeup change was a real depiction of a change to the Trek universe, rather than just a change in how "Trek reality" was depicted.
Once that door was opened, canon nerds demanded some sort of on-screen resolution. And since Manny Coto was a canon nerd, he aimed to please.
What I find amusing about the scene is that the waitress doesn’t recognize Worf as a Klingon. Sure, he’s wearing a funny hat to hide his ridges, but it’s fairly obvious who he is (at least to the audience, anyway.) And why did Worf feel the need to hide his ridges anyway? The scene seems to imply that the only Klingons anyone knows about are the oily human ones. So if no one has ever seen a “natural” Klingon, then there’d be no reason to hide that fact. (obviously ENT screws this up later, but that’s another story). The only logical reason why he’d have had to hide his ridges would be so that the TOS Klingons didn’t recognize him. But why would that matter?
Why is it obvious? I haven't seen the episode in a while (probably since the last canon discussion...) I only recall him orderinf a raktajino, but apart from that I don't recall any obvious hints about who he is.
Or the humans know of the ENT/TNG Klingons, so Worf had to hide his features. Not sure how string the implication of that scene was (as I said it's been a while) so I don't know how well that matches up.
He orders Klingon coffee, after a room full of Klingons also try to, on the Klingon border, with a D-7 hanging outside.
Maybe she'd been helping herself to shots while no one was looking and didn't know what was going on.
She could have just assumed he was another merchant like Cyrano Jones. (albeit a Klingon one)
I'm sure they've probably had many different alien salesmen pass through, it is a BAR after all.
If she has been there any length of time, she's most likely seen stranger things than a Klingon with a fuzzy hat on.
I'm sure they've probably had many different alien salesmen pass through, it is a BAR after all.
If she has been there any length of time, she's most likely seen stranger things than a Klingon with a fuzzy hat on.
I always assumed that it was so that he would be expected to be hostile to the Starfleet officers, especially given the tense relationship with Klingons at the time.
She could have just assumed he was another merchant like Cyrano Jones. (albeit a Klingon one)
I'm sure they've probably had many different alien salesmen pass through, it is a BAR after all.
If she has been there any length of time, she's most likely seen stranger things than a Klingon with a fuzzy hat on.
If that’s the case, then she must have thought that Odo, O’Brien and Bashir were the most idiotic people in the universe, since they didn’t know what Klingons look like even though they were sitting right next to one
Then I wonder why he was even there at all. He could have stayed on the Defiant with Kira.
Don’t get me wrong: I know the whole scene was just meant for laughs. But it’s fun to poke holes in the logic.
Discovery isn't the first time TOS-prime has been reimagined. After Star Trek (2009), Dave Stern's novel The Children of Kings mashed up elements of Enterprise, the Kelvin universe and TOS. Klingons were developing cloaks in the Pike-era. The cover has the TOS versions of Pike and Spock and the TOS Enterprise, but the Kelvin warp speed effect.
... or maybe she thought they were all just drunk and being stupid.If that’s the case, then she must have thought that Odo, O’Brien and Bashir were the most idiotic people in the universe, since they didn’t know what Klingons look like even though they were sitting right next to one
Then I wonder why he was even there at all. He could have stayed on the Defiant with Kira.
Don’t get me wrong: I know the whole scene was just meant for laughs. But it’s fun to poke holes in the logic.
My mom use to waitress at a bar part-time to make extra money when she was younger, she once told me that this line of thought, was the standard for most customers she waited on.
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She could have just assumed he was another merchant like Cyrano Jones. (albeit a Klingon one)
I'm sure they've probably had many different alien salesmen pass through, it is a BAR after all.
If she has been there any length of time, she's most likely seen stranger things than a Klingon with a fuzzy hat on.
Of all the damned luck. All the Klingons ever had to do was wear hats...
Unless she was secretly working for Section-31, I rather doubt the waitress really gave a damn either way.
Perhaps if she had been something more than an exceedingly minor, one-off character in that scene, what she did or didn't comprehend would actually be important to the overall story.
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