Spoilers DISC*ACTORS* and future direction for the show

[CaptainMurdock]

Agreed. Now that his angst with Burnham seems to be gone and based on his dialogue of next episode's trailer, I think He's going to be leading the Discovery forward for what is planned next. Each new episode he's comes off as less cowardly and more into his own as a natural leader. I'd love to see Saru become Captain.

 

[Brainsucker]

But the only one that know about MU Lorca's real identity is just Burnham. If she closes her mouth shut, nobody know about Lorca's real identity. So he can still continue to become the captain. But, just like what OP said, Isaac may leave because of his career reason. So it's highly probably that Lorca will be gone. Maybe he'll stay in the MU universe or dead in near future.

I think in the S-2, Discovery will has a new captain. I prefer that it's not Burnham or Saru. Although there is a high probability of that. For me, it's better if they find a new actor or actress with charismatic figure like Isaac or Patrict Stewart. I don't know about American / Canadian / Australian actors or actress that fit to the role. But I prefer a senior actor with charismatic figure to fill the role. Just like Timothy Dalton in Penny Dreadful.

 

[eltel99uk]

.... For me, it's better if they find a new actor or actress with charismatic figure like Isaac or Patrict Stewart. I don't know about American / Canadian / Australian actors or actress that fit to the role. But I prefer a senior actor with charismatic figure to fill the role. Just like Timothy Dalton in Penny Dreadful.

Agreed re a charismatic figure - but the problem any Star Trek incarnation has is that it's less of a "mainstream" show these days in the multi-channel world, where morality plays can be watched elsewhere etc....a big name simply creates the same problem we've had with casting Jason Isaacs. He/she will insist on a one/two season contract so as not to box themselves in regarding movies etc. They need to scour the theatre scene or something, like how they got Patrick Stewart - someone obviously talented but who hasn't achieved "break-out" yet.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Agreed re a charismatic figure - but the problem any Star Trek incarnation has is that it's less of a "mainstream" show these days in the multi-channel world, where morality plays can be watched elsewhere etc....a big name simply creates the same problem we've had with casting Jason Isaacs. He/she will insist on a one/two season contract so as not to box themselves in regarding movies etc. They need to scour the theatre scene or something, like how they got Patrick Stewart - someone obviously talented but who hasn't achieved "break-out" yet.

why are you so obsessed with actors that stay for multiple seasons. A show with a ever revolving cast is something that Star Trek hasn't done yet, that I'm totally fine with and that can change direction every season to tell whatever story they want. It is more flexible that way.

 

[Brainsucker]

Agreed re a charismatic figure - but the problem any Star Trek incarnation has is that it's less of a "mainstream" show these days in the multi-channel world, where morality plays can be watched elsewhere etc....a big name simply creates the same problem we've had with casting Jason Isaacs. He/she will insist on a one/two season contract so as not to box themselves in regarding movies etc. They need to scour the theatre scene or something, like how they got Patrick Stewart - someone obviously talented but who hasn't achieved "break-out" yet.

But Timothy Dalton can stay more than 1 season in Penny Dreadful, and he's famous.

 

[eltel99uk]

why are you so obsessed with actors that stay for multiple seasons. A show with a ever revolving cast is something that Star Trek hasn't done yet, that I'm totally fine with and that can change direction every season to tell whatever story they want. It is more flexible that way.

OK fair point. I can probably live with it too - but you really need a larger ensemble cast to begin with if you're going to change the captain and DSC has not fleshed out enough characters (yet) to keep the wider audience on board. If they were sticking with the anthology type ST then all is fine....but as soon as CBS nixed that it raised the issue that new characters need to be introduced and developed....which they haven't really done. They're reducing, not increasing, the number of characters likely to stay around.

 

[dinzy]

If I were Saru, I'd demand a transfer at that point. Even if he's buried the hatchet with Burnham, it would be galling to have Starfleet reinstate your disgraced former XO and make them the commanding officer of a ship that should be given to you.

This is not how it works. Saru has been XO for what 6 months? You have to earn the captain's chair. He would be acting captain up until Starfleet decided to give the command to someone who is next in line for a command. He could still be pissed and not stand for Burnham being captain, but not on the grounds that he deserves the position. He could still get it, but that would depend on a lot of things outside of the fact that he was the ships XO.

 

[Hythlodeus]

This is not how it works.

based on what? Starfleet is a made up, fictional pseudo-militaristic organization that more often than not works in ways that 20th century or 21st century miltary orgnizations do not. one can't judge Starfleet by logic standards of how similar organizations work since the narrative element outweighs those standards every single time

 

[eschaton]

This is not how it works. Saru has been XO for what 6 months? You have to earn the captain's chair. He would be acting captain up until Starfleet decided to give the command to someone who is next in line for a command. He could still be pissed and not stand for Burnham being captain, but not on the grounds that he deserves the position. He could still get it, but that would depend on a lot of things outside of the fact that he was the ships XO.

I agree Saru doesn't "earn" the chair merely by his existing captain being put out of commission. It's been implied he has less experience than Burnham, given he had a lower rank than her on the Shenzhou and expected to serve under Georgiou as first officer for some time before getting his own command. But it would still be galling for Burnham to be immediately reinstated and bumped right up to captain - his captain in particular.

 

[seigezunt]

My gut tells me that Burnham will *not* be made captain. It just doesn't seem like the arc so far. I'm guessing they might bring in another recognizable actor to be captain.

I'd like Capaldi.

 

[Longinus]

But people have done bad things before while under the influence of an alien entity that possesses them, or spores (looking at you Spock) or some other external shit. They still get forgiven and get to go back to duty. Yes, killing Culber was extreme. But it still wasn't technically Tyler who did it. He wasn't in control.

It absolutely wasn't Tyler who killed Culber, because he is not Tyler! Tyler has been dead for months, we have never even seen him!

 

[Jesse1066]

My gut tells me that Burnham will *not* be made captain. It just doesn't seem like the arc so far. I'm guessing they might bring in another recognizable actor to be captain.

I'd like Capaldi.

I'd love to have Peter Capaldi in Star Trek. It's incredibly unlikely though. Then again, Star Wars Rebels got Tom Baker for a season, so who knows? It would certainly attract attention to the show.

 

[Hythlodeus]

I'd like Capaldi.

I'd fucking love that, in full Malcom Tucker mode.

 

[Jesse1066]

I'd fucking love that, in full Malcom Tucker mode.

Not sure CBS would go for that. Maybe 25% Malcolm Tucker mode.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Not sure CBS would go for that. Maybe 25% Malcolm Tucker mode.

it is R rated anyway, so let's go for it.
but yeah, even 25% Malcom Tucker mode would be too much for American TV, R rated or not

 

[Hythlodeus]

Damn it, now I REALLY want the next Discovery captain, whenever there is a crisis behave like this

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[seigezunt]

Okay, I need to see this show.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Okay, I need to see this show.

The Thick of It
then they made a movie called In the Loop which also served as a backdoor pilot to the US version of The Thick of It which then became Veep

 

[Gepard]

He can't suddenly be a warp engineer. That would be nonsense.

 

[SJA]

Okay, I need to see this show.

The Thick of It' is genius! I used to play footy with one of the writers (before he was famous) in Manchester! Not sure if he was a Trekkie though!