startrekrcks
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Any thoughts
Did you like the way the cast paid homage to TOS
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If you're talking about characterization, I don't think they did. They decided to go their own way, especially regarding Spock and Scotty. That's a completely valid choice but I didn't see it as an homage.
I think the only ones who really did any kind of homage to the original actors were Karl Urban and Anton Yelchin. They seemed to want to portray their characters in a similar.
Everyone else just did their own things that barely reflected the original actors/characters.
I agree and I was remiss in pointing out Karl Urban. His portrayal was definitely an homage to De Kelley.
Well it was hard at first, but I did notice the Kirk similarities after the second watching.
Scotty reminds me of the crazy irishman on Braveheart with his loopy attitude compared to the original Scotty. Although I see a chance of his character gradually improving.
Chekov did remind me of Chekov.
Sulu.... not so much.
Uhura... she did have that "Strong Woman Presence" that the original had, but since the original was still kinda quiet and in the background most of the time, it was difficult to determine at this stage.
McCoy.... while the new Bones doesn't look much like the old Bones in the physical sense, the new Bones for the most part is spot on in character and mannerisms.
Spock..... hmmmmm.... He was Vulcanish.... but he sure didn't remind me of Spock.... I felt he was the most un-related character to the original series characters. Even outside of fight scenes, his character was just aggressive in nature, while old Spock sorta just went around like a tall-wise Yoda solving everything with logic and the occasional neck pinch. The New Spock was irradic, made extreme decisions I found illogical, didn't sound like the old spock, didn't even have the same mannerisms.
Scotty reminds me of the crazy irishman on Braveheart with his loopy attitude compared to the original Scotty. Although I see a chance of his character gradually improving.
Chekov did remind me of Chekov.
Sulu.... not so much.
Uhura... she did have that "Strong Woman Presence" that the original had, but since the original was still kinda quiet and in the background most of the time, it was difficult to determine at this stage.
McCoy.... while the new Bones doesn't look much like the old Bones in the physical sense, the new Bones for the most part is spot on in character and mannerisms.
Spock..... hmmmmm.... He was Vulcanish.... but he sure didn't remind me of Spock.... I felt he was the most un-related character to the original series characters. Even outside of fight scenes, his character was just aggressive in nature, while old Spock sorta just went around like a tall-wise Yoda solving everything with logic and the occasional neck pinch. The New Spock was irradic, made extreme decisions I found illogical, didn't sound like the old spock, didn't even have the same mannerisms.
But by not imitating Shatner he actually got closer to the character than a lot of the other actors did with theirs. Don't get me wrong though, there were definitely differences. I personally think Spock was the most iconic (and I'm a Kirk fan) and the hardest to get right. If they were trying to emulate Nimoy than I personally don't think they succeeded. If they were trying to take Spock in a different direction then I think they hit a home run.
The only two that really struck me as doing so were Yelchin and Urban, and they were the two most annoying characters on the screen, to me. If either were doing a comedy routine, a satire of the characters, then, yeah, I could see it, but as they were supposed to be serious characters, I found them both too over-the-top. I liked Urban fine in the scenes where he didn't chew the scenery; Yelchin, though, seemed to be channeling Gerrold's Chekov exclusively.
Paying homage? I could have sworn Urban was channeling Kelley.
In this you are not alone. And I would call that a high compliment to Mr. Urban!
Urban defintely nailed the McCoy character and performance of Dee. Pine was able to incorporate some of Shatner's Kirk mannerisms in some scenes. I thought the scene in the transporter room before beaming over to the narada where Kirk calls up to bridge, was a classic Kirk moment.
Chekov was done a little too much for comic relief, the "wickter wickter" scene I guess tried to call back the scene in Trek 4, with the nuclear wessels.
Spock, overall was good, but I have to agree it wasn't like he was just parroting Nimoy. I think he took Spock in a slightly different direction but nailed the fundementals of the character.
Sulu, kind of harkened back to some classic season 1 performances in Shore Leave, Naked Time, etc.
Scotty, was different as well, but again the fundementals were there. Scotty's tech manuals, classic one liners, etc.
I went into the movie expecting a horror show a total trek meltdown, when the film ended, I was totally into it. Trek was fun again.
-Chris
Chekov was done a little too much for comic relief, the "wickter wickter" scene I guess tried to call back the scene in Trek 4, with the nuclear wessels.
Spock, overall was good, but I have to agree it wasn't like he was just parroting Nimoy. I think he took Spock in a slightly different direction but nailed the fundementals of the character.
Sulu, kind of harkened back to some classic season 1 performances in Shore Leave, Naked Time, etc.
Scotty, was different as well, but again the fundementals were there. Scotty's tech manuals, classic one liners, etc.
I went into the movie expecting a horror show a total trek meltdown, when the film ended, I was totally into it. Trek was fun again.
-Chris
Well keep in mind this was a younger Spock then as we see him in TOS. Actually in the episode "The Cage", the youngest Nimoy acted Spock we see is a rather emotinal being that frequently had some outbursts. Remember when the women didn't transport with them, he exlaimed "the women!!". Spock from later in the series would never have done that.
Karl Urban came the closest of all the lead characters to replicating a classic TOS personage and personality, and even if you only think about and include him it was an incredible homage that De Kelley would be proud of!
When Karl said "Is that a thank you?" in his scene on the bridge with Quinto, it sounded EXACTLY like DeForest Kelley...as if the man was speaking from beyond the grave and his voice was captured on-set.
LOVE that moment. Eerie, but so thoroughly enjoyable and makes me wistful for the good old days.-
LOVE that moment. Eerie, but so thoroughly enjoyable and makes me wistful for the good old days.-
number6
Vice Admiral
I don't think any of the cast were paying homage to TOS. As it's been said, Urban's performance channels De Kelley, while the rest took cues from their respective counterparts and took it into their own direction.. I was happier that they did that rather than a straight carbon copy. That made the film fresh for me.
