Why? Because they don't look like a dude in a suit, even though they're a dude in a suit?
Did They Jump Too Far?
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Why? Because they don't look like a dude in a suit, even though they're a dude in a suit?
Wow, the Discovery one is really bad, you can see the eye-holes and rubber sheen on the mask he is using.
They wouldn't have needed to make entire new prosthetics, they could have just separated the forehead pieces and used those without all the rest of the facial and neck prosthetics.
And of course chosen makeup that didn't look just generally flat on screen.
It doesn't matter how far ahead they jumped. They ended up creating their own branch of the canon, a la JJverse. Some things might be the same across the timelines, but they certainly deviated into their own thing by the time Discovery ended up in the 32nd century. For instance, the fact that in S4 of Discovery it's a pretty big plot line that nobody has left the Milky Way, but in Picard we see that Uhura's ship did just that in the early 24th century, and was there for like five years.
Although I think it might have started earlier. Probably something to do with Burnham's mom time traveling. In Discovery they say that there were only ever two Crossfield class ships, but there's a Crossfield in Star Trek III. And in SNW they recognize that cobbled-together Klingon/Federation ship as a Crossfield.
So there's still plenty to do in the main canon.
Although I think it might have started earlier. Probably something to do with Burnham's mom time traveling. In Discovery they say that there were only ever two Crossfield class ships, but there's a Crossfield in Star Trek III. And in SNW they recognize that cobbled-together Klingon/Federation ship as a Crossfield.
So there's still plenty to do in the main canon.
Oh come on. Nobody writing S4 knew what was going to be on a background display in Picard S2. Likewise, when that bit about Uhura's ship was written, the writer likely didn't have plot details about Disco S4 on hand.
They never said that. There were only two Crossfield class ships that were modified for spore drive. But the fact that neither of them were the USS Crossfield itself, pretty much makes it clear there's at least one other ship of the class out there.
Sorry, but Disco is not an alternate timeline. Deal with it.
If you squint, Discovery does mesh up well with most of the canon.
If you squint some Trek canon actually fits together coherently. But only if you squint.
Really…?
There aren't any Disco Klingons on SNW. The closest you get are SNW episodes which contain footage from Disco featuring their Klingons, but new footage shot for SNW shows all their Klingons as the "traditional" ones with forehead ridges we've seen everywhere else in the franchise besides TOS and Disco. Indeed, given Akiva Goldsman and others involved behind the scenes on SNW have gone out of their way to trash the Disco Klingons in interviews, there's no way they'd ever allow the Disco Klingon makeup to be used on their show.
Have you got a link to those interviews? I do recall when we first saw the S2 Klingons in previews they said all types of Klingons would appear, but it seemed like only TNG/DS9 style and a few more TOS-ish ones that may or may not have been Klingons.
It's in the episode where the renegades are building the fake Federation ship. They are by no needs prominent, but there are a few DSC Klingons in the background.
They 100% are moving away from them and basically pretending like they never existed and rightfully so. Those couple of background ones were almost certainly just because they had the stuff laying around and they were just there for background fluff anyway.
Or just ignore it, do their own thing and let the more obsessive fans worry about.If other writers of upcoming Star Trek productions don't like what DISCO did to the 32nd century they can make it a different timeline.
I don't think they jumped too far, they had to go further than Star Trek had ever gone or else we'd still have a bounded future. It had to be after Relativity, after Daniels, or else both of those would still be in the future.
I mean, if it were in the main canon it would "bind" the writers for all future projects. If they had to do a jump they could have found a way to get to about 2400 instead. Maybe could have found a way to do it and bring them into the main timeline (if Michael's mom's timey wimey stuff hadn't already split them off).
Agreed.
On the other hand. they probably couldn't jump ahead a million years or so. Would be depressing if we found out that we didn't come significantly closer to Q-hood over such a time span.
This right here.
For those saying the stakes lower for centuries past did that have an impact on watching Enterprise?
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